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Coler
04-24-2007, 10:12 PM
This is a suggestion not an insult.

The large amount of forums dealing with specific groups of fish is in my opinion not helpful (the people posting in them are by the way mostly great).

I think that less specificity in the forums would be better; you see someone post about a sick oscar specifically in the oscar forum while someone else posts about a sick gourami in that forum. Often the advice is quite similar, especially on issues such as water parameters etc. Good information in posts does the same job as creating so many forums, but makes the board easier, in my opinion to read. Of course where specialist advice is needed this is not precuded by having less forums.

I also think that it would make information more readily accessible and increase in the amount of responses to posts.

I also think that the moderators and administrator of this board have a great attitude.

Drumachine09
04-24-2007, 10:13 PM
Uhhhhh, what?

Coler
04-24-2007, 10:28 PM
The large amount of forums dealing with specific groups of fish is in my opinion not helpful

I think that less specificity in the forums would be better; Often the advice is quite similar, especially on issues such as water parameters etc. Good information in posts does the same job as creating so many forums, but makes the board easier, in my opinion to read. Of course where specialist advice is needed this is not precuded by having less forums.

I also think that it would make information more readily accessible and increase in the amount of responses to posts.

That's it minus the ass kissing

Drumachine09
04-24-2007, 10:51 PM
That's it minus the ass kissing


Hate to break it to ya, but this isnt a specialty forum.

Coler
04-24-2007, 10:57 PM
one of us is not reading this thread correctly. I think its you.

I am suggesting less forums. More general forums. I think useful information on tropical fish is being lost in the clutter of the large amount of forums, where often that information is applicable to more than just one type of fish. Also that less forums would generate more, helpful, responses to posts.

Why do you hate to break to me that this is not a specialty forum ? What part of my post suggests that I believe it to be one ?

cocoa_pleco
04-24-2007, 11:00 PM
things are good how they are i think

Drumachine09
04-24-2007, 11:00 PM
one of us is not reading this thread correctly. I think its you.

I am suggesting less forums. More general forums. I think useful information on tropical fish is being lost in the clutter of the large amount of forums, where often that information is applicable to more than just one type of fish. Also that less forums would generate more, helpful, responses to posts.

Why do you hate to break to me that this is not a specialty forum ? What part of my post suggests that I believe it to be one ?

It was implyed, or atleast, thats how i percieved it as. I ,however, think the different catergories is better than "more general forums", because when you need to find a specific think like, cichlid tankmates, oscar foods, or angelfish breeding, you can click its tabs and you can find it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though, but i doubt the forum will change after being this succesful.

Coler
04-24-2007, 11:08 PM
cocoa - as I said, a suggestion only; I think its a really good forum too.

drum machine - I think in fact the exact opposite was what I said. I don't think anyone could have implied that I thought this was a 'specialty forum'. Your initial response did irk me a bit (ummmmmmmmmm what ?) but hey :) no harm done.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't (change). I wouldn't expect it to change on foot of just my view. I'm quite new to it and this was my very unbiased and objective thought as regards a suggestion to improve it.

jeffs99dime
04-24-2007, 11:58 PM
Coler, you have made a very good suggestion and valid points. good on you. keep it up.:thumb:

Drumachine and Cocoa, this is the sub forum for members to express their opinions on what they would like to see change or not, on A.C. he is entitled to his opinion as are you guys. it is encouraged that members come up with new ideas for the forum. myself and the other moderators and William will not tolerate "trashing" another members opinion. this is absolutely nothing personal towards you guys in any way. i did feel however, that it was my obligation to step in. i would do the same for you all if the tables were turned. thanks, jeff:ezpi_wink1:

Drumachine09
04-25-2007, 12:10 AM
myself and the other moderators and William will not tolerate "trashing" another members opinion.


I wasnt "trashing" his opinion, i just explained why i think we have a better system than the aforementioned.

jeffs99dime
04-25-2007, 12:13 AM
I wasnt "trashing" his opinion, i just explained why i think we have a better system than the aforementioned.

yes. i understand that but, this is not the forum for it. if you guys (coler, you and cocoa would like to debate the issue amongst each other, start another thread in the controversial section.

Coler
04-25-2007, 12:17 AM
i'll always abide by a mod but just to stress that i'm not offended.

We's good :)

Drumachine09
04-25-2007, 12:17 AM
yes. i understand that but, this is not the forum for it. if you guys (coler, you and cocoa would like to debate the issue amongst each other, start another thread in the controversial section.


I not trying to start an argument here, but its not the forum for what. He made a suggestion to change the fourum, and he gave reasons, and i made a suggestion to keep the forum the way it is, and also gave reasons. As long as im making a suggestion, i do belive this is the right thread.

cocoa_pleco
04-25-2007, 12:23 AM
I wasnt "trashing" his opinion, i just explained why i think we have a better system than the aforementioned.


ditto:1: :1: :1: :1:

Lady Hobbs
04-25-2007, 01:05 AM
I think there was a bit of confusion by this statement: The large amount of forums dealing with specific groups of fish is in my opinion not helpful. I had to read Coler's post a couple times to get it straight myself. The use of the word "forums" confused me but now I see he meant threads.

I like simple myself and I like things categorized. I like everything pertaining to diseases under DISEASES.....not a gourami with ICK in the gourami thread and then an Oscar with ICK in the Oscar thread and a Molly with ICK in the LiveBearers thread. There's one ICK that's the same for all fish with all treated the same. However, people post threads where they feel is the right area and we may not all feel the same about where it goes.

However, if I want to know more about a Lab Cichilid, I don't want to pour thru tons of posts about all the different cichlids to find what I'm looking for. I like the different species in categories. Personally I think it makes the search easier.

Because the posts remain here forever, I also think it helps to set options to view posts for a certain number of days so all those old posts are no longer in the way. You can set options to only view for the last week or last 30 days or however by getting rid of the old stuff.

No matter what forum we visit, all have things we like about them and don't like about them. For me personally, the thing I least like about this forum is that messages have to be searched out. If someone posts to me personally, you have to surf thru the entire thread to see what a person had to say. I don't like to feel someone has asked me a question and I've ignored them by not finding the post. I would personally much rather see a system where you have a reply box under each post with the option to "read my posts" when you enter the site.

This is my way of explaining that some things we may not like and some that we do everywhere but here the people are so great and friendly that it's just an annoyance for me but well worth it.

Perhaps as MODS we can help more by moving stuff into proper area's, which I know Jeff and I already do, but maybe we can stay on top of it better.

gm72
04-25-2007, 01:51 AM
I think everything is great as it is. The specificity creates an easy-to-manage atmosphere in which information is readily available specific to the problem or question at hand.

sergo
04-25-2007, 02:42 AM
on a side note here, some fish do have have diseases that are specifically related to that fish and someone who has a lot of experience with that fish is more likely to browse a certain fish forum versus a general forum. jmo.

Coler
04-25-2007, 09:09 AM
I think there was a bit of confusion by this statement: The large amount of forums dealing with specific groups of fish is in my opinion not helpful. I had to read Coler's post a couple times to get it straight myself. The use of the word "forums" confused me but now I see he meant threads.

lol No I meant forums...as in this is a message board, with lots of forums on which there are many threads.

its no big deal though; just a subjective point of view to which there is plenty of valid disagreement possible :)

Tails
05-02-2007, 08:21 AM
Lol the way I normally see the various names are:

forums - sites like http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/ or www.fishforum.co.za etc
Sections - catagories like "General Chat" or "Cichilids" or "Bettas"
Threads - something like this thing we're in right now ("less is more")
Posts - one person's particular post within a thread, which is within a section, which is hosted on a forum

Make sense? :P

crackatinny
05-02-2007, 08:38 AM
Beginners and even intermediates (myself included) may not know if a certain problem or ailment would affect a range of fish, I think it is important in these cases to ask there questions specificaly relating to the species in question, for example, if someone had a sick oscar with no idea what the sickness was, posting a thread in the oscar section, it would be seen by more oscar enthusiasts than in the disease section.


Thanks for the kind words coler.

crackatinny
05-02-2007, 10:07 AM
Lol the way I normally see the various names are:

forums - sites like http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/ or www.fishforum.co.za (http://www.fishforum.co.za) etc
Sections - catagories like "General Chat" or "Cichilids" or "Bettas"
Threads - something like this thing we're in right now ("less is more")
Posts - one person's particular post within a thread, which is within a section, which is hosted on a forum

Make sense? :P

That is the way I see it to, and I think that is what has caused the disagreement, a simple matter of confusion over people calling different parts of the site different names to others.
I don't think there was any offence meant by anybody, just a simple missunderstanding.