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William
06-24-2009, 05:28 AM
Here are todays news. They were posted earlier but due to a power failure I didn't announce them here.


Plastic rubbish a problem says UN study

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/364)
Anglers urge politicians to protect Scottish sharks

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/365)

Sharkman
06-24-2009, 12:32 PM
interesting news. Thanks for sharing. I hope everyone does their part and stops the use of plastic bags and I really hope the sharks come around.

HorrorShowRot
06-24-2009, 01:34 PM
Same I love sharks XD And I stopped using plastic bags when I heard they were bad for the enviroment come on people snap outa it lol

Fraoch
06-24-2009, 03:15 PM
Around here, grocery stores have started charging for plastic bags. I refer to it as the "bag tax". I must admit it annoys me some being nickeled-and-dimed to death like that, but I also read about something they're calling the mid-Pacific garbage zone where plastic is accumulating due to ocean currents. It's many thousands of square kilometers, something has to be done.

I do have those cloth bags, I wish I'd remember to bring them to the store but I always forget...

Oh and there are sharks in Scotland?!?:ssuprised:

William
06-24-2009, 03:45 PM
There are two trash vortex. One in the atlantic and one in the pacific. You can read a little more about the pacific one in this "old" news item
http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/news/lib/307

Fraoch
06-24-2009, 03:49 PM
There are two trash vortex. One in the atlantic and one in the pacific. You can read a little more about the pacific one in this "old" news item
http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/news/lib/307

That's where I read about it! It's a very scary idea. You get an impression of the sheer scale of pollution, just think of the thousands of square kilometres of ocean contaminated with plastics!

The oceans seem vast and impossibly large, yet we've managed to contaminate them.

BirdOfPray
06-24-2009, 03:49 PM
I have to practically twist the bagger's arm to get paper bags instead of plastic at my grocery store. Half the time they just bag in plastic without asking. If I do catch them in time to say I'd like paper, I get an eye roll, a sigh, a look of disgust, or all three. Then they put all of my canned good in one bag filled up to an inch from the top.

Then I read the newspaper and get stories about how this same grocery store chain is trying to get people to use paper or cloth bags instead of plastic to help save the environment. Baloney!

William
06-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Just think of the thousands of square kilometres of ocean contaminated with plastics!


Yes it scary to think about an area the size of texas covered in plastic garbage and then realising there is another one in the atlantic.

Sharon
06-24-2009, 03:53 PM
We have to pay for plastic bags here...we try to remember to take the cloth bags with us, but it takes some getting used to...

Fraoch
06-24-2009, 04:02 PM
You can't get paper bags in Canada anymore. I'm not sure who made that decision, we have a pulp and paper industry that desperately needs our support.

Unfortunately I've seen the life-cycle studies of paper vs. plastic, even done one myself as an assignment in a chemical engineering course in university, and there's not much difference. Sure paper doesn't use petrochemicals and it degrades more easily, but it uses huge amounts of energy and water to produce.

Cloth has its drawbacks as well. It can harbour fungus and mold. Interestingly it also leads to higher theft because someone can hide items in them as they shop!