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wbzorker
11-19-2018, 05:18 AM
I'm hoping someone can help me separate truth from rumor:

1. An Albino/Super Red cross will turn rose colored as it gets older.

2. The brown bristlenose albino has spots.

True or False?

In addition, Aquabid has Albino, Green Dragon Albino, Blue Eye Albino etc. with all different prices. Wouldn't all L144 albino's look the same? If a fish is labelled Albino only, what kind of albino is it?

Somewhere, years and years ago , I found an article that explained why albino fish can have a yellow or goldish color but I can't find it now. Does anyone know why they have color?

Some albino L144 are almost transparent. Why are they different from the yellowish/goldish color that I usually see for albino L144s?

Thanks for your help, folks.

SueD
11-19-2018, 05:34 PM
It's all controlled by genetics and I don't know how one could be certain of what might show up in a particular breeding for some of them. BNP's are so easily crossed. In 4 spawns I had of an albino BNP male and a brown female, not one albino fry showed up out of maybe 60-70 fry. The fry were all brown and had some white spots and white edging around the fins, but this changed over time (I only kept one and sold the others, so can't know about all of them). But here is a different large brown BNP I had and there were no spots. And the other pic is of one of the fry crosses from the albino and brown BNP's

angelcraze2
11-19-2018, 05:56 PM
An albino parent and a brown parent would produce 100% brown offspring. 50% of those brown babies would possess an albino gene. But two recessive genes are required to express, so they will still always be brown unless your brown BN had one albino gene, but it doesn't look that way. Both my original brown BNs had one albino gene, so they produced 50% albino offspring. Having said that, I noticed the albino babies are the first to get eaten in a community tank since they stand out so much. The brown babies camouflage easier for protection.

My albino BNs have spots because they are not completely white. They are slightly yellow to orange, so the white (lighter) spots are visible. The spots would not be visible if the albino was pure white though obviously.

I'm not sure about the super red/albino cross becoming rosey colored as it matures, but it doesn't really make sense to me that they would. I have noticed that albino plecos sometimes look very orange, which is close to the color of super reds.

For example, here is my albino male in my 120g (as a young dude)
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I was always very impressed with his orange coloration, my other albinos have not turned this orange. It's either something in the tank, the fact that he's the only pleco in there, something he's eating or the lighting on that tank that gives him that orange glow I suspect. Maybe something with the genes, but I highly doubt it since his parents were brown and the others are not as orange.

toddnbecka
11-19-2018, 10:34 PM
I bred hundreds upon hundreds of BN a few years back. I even had a few (1-2 out of a litter of 50+, through several different litters) super reds turn up among some brown and albino's I'd been breeding for multiple generations before I got my super red stock from Germany. They were all housed in separate tanks, so the few that turned up among my domestic stock were apparently the same random combination that had produced the first ones in Germany a few years earlier. I never did line breed the brown or albino offspring further to see if they would also produce a few super reds.

Allinson110
07-10-2021, 09:55 AM
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