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NoelFae
01-19-2017, 02:35 PM
So I just got my betta Ares a few weeks ago; and it's looking like he's got pretty bad finrot, or ripped fins, or something awful.

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I'm a first time fish owner - and I have no idea what to do to help him. :scry:

I've done an 100% water change to try and get rid of whatever's eating his fins in a desperate panic attack frenzy to do something before I could get medicine or anything but now I'm stumped.

One website I've read told me to buy aquarium salt to put in his tank for a few days. So much a day, and then 100% water changes, and then repeat - so I sent my room mate to buy aquarium salt the next morning and he came back with BettaFix.

He told me the women at Big Al's told him using salt, and cleaning the tank out 100% a day was more stressful to the fish and that BettaFix is better and less stressful and fixes finrot. I had to leave for work, so I threw the recommended does in his tank and left. She also told him to take out the filter insert, and turn his lights off cause it'll keep him calm - which I did.

Now, a quick internet search is telling me that Bettafix is garbage and actually hurts the fish more than helps, and that I should get antibiotics, or do salt baths. And some people say just doing big water changes every few days is the best.

And I'm getting so much information from left and right field that I have no idea what to believe, and I'm back to square one on what to do.

I just need some solidish, not all over the place information of what to do.


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Ares' is in a 5 gallon tank, with a TopFin 10 filter.
I do water changes every sunday, and it's usually probably about 10-25% and I put 10 drops of seachem prime as the conditioner.

I never checked the filter's cycle because I'm scared of putting ammonia and stuff in the tank with Ares in there; and despite sooo many readings I'm still scared I'll do a cycle wrong.

Rocksor
01-19-2017, 03:01 PM
Salt won't stop finrot. Big water changes are a must for a non-cycled tank. The stress of dirty water is much higher than the stress of a water change. If you don't keep a wound clean, how will it heal? Changing the water keeps the wound clean.

Go back to big al's and get paraguard and buy a freshwater master test kit. You need a test kit to properly cycle a tank.

You do not have to put ammonia. Fish naturally excrete ammonia from their gills.

Link on how to cycle with fish

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=36492

NoelFae
01-19-2017, 03:11 PM
Okay, I'll do that shortly; and I HAVE the test kit already - i just..haven't used it. (blush)

My filter media isn't in the filter right now though - thanks to big al girl and her advice. I'm guessing I should put it back in and test?

Slaphppy7
01-19-2017, 03:25 PM
Yes, never remove media, and never let it dry out.

The only time you remove media is to swish it around in old tank water, or treated tap water, to clean it.

What kind of media do you have?

Rocksor
01-19-2017, 03:28 PM
without a filter a daily 25%-50% water change is necessary to keep toxic ammonia and nitrite down.

NoelFae
01-19-2017, 03:34 PM
Yes, never remove media, and never let it dry out.

The only time you remove media is to swish it around in old tank water, or treated tap water, to clean it.

What kind of media do you have?

I have a top fin 10 filter and the media is like a spongy thing

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NoelFae
01-19-2017, 03:38 PM
without a filter a daily 25%-50% water change is necessary to keep toxic ammonia and nitrite down.

So I just did a test and my ph is sitting at 7.6, ammonia is between .25 and .50
Nitrites is at 0 and Nitrates are between 20-40 ppm


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Slaphppy7
01-19-2017, 03:39 PM
Do at least a 50% water change now. What water conditioner do you use?

Be sure to match tap temp to tank temp.

NoelFae
01-19-2017, 03:43 PM
Do at least a 50% water change now. What water conditioner do you use?

Be sure to match tap temp to tank temp.

I use seachem prime for my conditioner


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Slaphppy7
01-19-2017, 03:51 PM
Very good.

Do you use a siphon or a bucket for WC's?

NoelFae
01-19-2017, 03:58 PM
Very good.

Do you use a siphon or a bucket for WC's?

Both lol. I've only had him for 2 weeks - so the first time I just dumped a bucket in and the second time I siphoned - the third time I did 100% because I was scared of his finrot and i put him in a cup while I cleaned everything and then bucketed everything back in


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NoelFae
01-19-2017, 04:08 PM
After this water change should I test ammonia again? Or should I wait abit?


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Slaphppy7
01-19-2017, 04:24 PM
Treat with Prime for the hole tank amount...1 ml treats 10 gallons, so use 1/2 ml for a 5.5G tank

Wait 24 hours after changing water before testing again

NoelFae
01-19-2017, 04:40 PM
Treat with Prime for the hole tank amount...1 ml treats 10 gallons, so use 1/2 ml for a 5.5G tank

So do I always treat for the 5 gallons every time I change the water? As of now I've just been putting in a few drops to the water I'm putting in.

Rocksor
01-19-2017, 04:43 PM
So do I always treat for the 5 gallons every time I change the water? As of now I've just been putting in a few drops to the water I'm putting in.

If you are putting the water into the bucket before the tank, then you treat for 5 gallons in the bucket. Put Prime in the bucket, and then fill the bucket with water. Finally, put water from bucket into tank.

If you put the water into the tank directly, then you treat the total tank volume, adding Prime just before you fill the tank.

SueD
01-19-2017, 07:39 PM
This tank is only 5g so the amount coming out and going back in for a 50% wc is only 2-3g. So, add the new tap water to the bucket, treat the bucket for the 2-3g's that are in there, then add to tank.