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Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 03:54 PM
Yeah that's what it is. GSP. Yeah she said it was pretty easy to control of it started getting out of hand lol

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Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 03:56 PM
When she pulled it out she said I got a freebie, there was a mushroom on the back of the rock

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Marty.h
07-02-2016, 04:02 PM
Mushrooms can move and pop up anywhere I have some in mine that have.

Pulsing exinia is another coral that can easily take over a tank if you are planning on more LPS and SPS later I would advise against pulsing exinia.

I would definitely also put that GSP on its own as once it gets onto a rock it's hard to clear it totally of as all it will take is a tiny fragment left behind and it will grow on from that.

But it all depends on your future plans with marine planning is key as what you add now could affect your end goal if you get what I mean :)

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 05:17 PM
Here is the coral, I don't think it's GSP

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/b77324ec2cf489ec27ee276aff199c48.jpg

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Marty.h
07-02-2016, 05:28 PM
Yeah that is GSP there is a couple of different types but that is 100% GSP :)

Marty.h
07-02-2016, 05:30 PM
Here you go some more information on it :)

http://reefcorner.com/reef-database-index/soft-coral-index/green-star-polyps/

Mrs. JwFish13
07-02-2016, 05:56 PM
I noticed after purchasing that it says "resists packing" so I assume it wouldn't be good for the jawfish to bury itself. What do you think?

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Mrs. JwFish13
07-02-2016, 05:59 PM
But the sand is very fine and falls when attempting to dig a hole

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Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 06:01 PM
we bought that coarse substrate to add to our sand so the jawfish can build its burrows, with this size work or would we need even coarser stuff?

Mrs. JwFish13
07-02-2016, 06:03 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/9d198ac9f458cf395f6771dc6a87abcd.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/19aab9a6c50a16b35d4979754f706a8a.jpg

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Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 06:05 PM
Yes that is 100% GSP lol I'm such a noob when it comes to coral names... I'm learning though.

I may just stick with softies and LPS, I'm not sure what my centerpiece coral is going to be yet but I am researching :)

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 06:06 PM
oh and I'm already planning my next two SW builds :P

Marty.h
07-02-2016, 06:14 PM
For a centre piece here is a few you can look at Google these names.

Elegance Coral
Wall Hammer Coral
Bubble coral
Duncan

They are all nice you can get huge Elegance Corals as well :)


You will soon have a load of tanks

Silbar
07-02-2016, 07:22 PM
I love bubble corals.

Marty.h
07-02-2016, 08:00 PM
Bubble corals are awesome I have a big one

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/220gtiturbo/2016-02-11%2019.42.15_zpsd0evnqdf.jpg

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 08:05 PM
Very nice! Hey Marty you have zoanthids? where do they like the most? do they like more light? higher in the tank with flow or not as much flow, mine don't seem to be opening up all the way where they are. any advice on placement?

Marty.h
07-02-2016, 08:12 PM
I don't have any Zoa's now but when I did have they was half way up the tank.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/220gtiturbo/20150823_161952_zpsy5gka75b.jpg

They was surrounded by pulsing exinia but removed both as I took my reef down the mainly SPS route

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 08:15 PM
Man your tank(s) look great! that is a beautiful zoa. btw can you cut the plug part that sticks down about 2 to 3 inches off of the button part? so I can place it different places?

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 08:28 PM
The little guy is finally getting adjusted, I was worried last night cause he was looking a little ill. But today he is acting normally yay! he still isn't colored up all the way but he is still young.


https://youtu.be/J1x4e5vin5w

Marty.h
07-02-2016, 10:06 PM
Yeah you can cut the plug but wear eye protection as Zoas are on it.

This shows mine now as you can see mainly SPS :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/220gtiturbo/20160520_220928_zps6p9pvz0i.jpg

Boundava
07-02-2016, 10:47 PM
Here is a quick video of the new additions.
Sorry to bombard this thread with posts but its a bit exciting.


https://youtu.be/rtOCHg5MZMI
The clowns are just too darn cute, and love the jawfish-especially when he turns his head and stares straight at you "whatcha looking at!" :mrt:

BTW woy have you got a busy thread, and i am so glad the jawfish is excavating. Making his mark on the tank.

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 11:50 PM
Marty you tank looks awesome! I snipped it off now it's towards the top

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Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 11:51 PM
Thanks Nat, I'm in awe. I just stare at it, can't believe I actually have it

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Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 11:52 PM
I put the coarse gravel in and the jawfish started building right away

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Marty.h
07-02-2016, 11:56 PM
You will spend hours watching it you can get some CUC like hermits ect.

I sometimes loose several hours sitting there watching

Jwfish13
07-02-2016, 11:57 PM
Yeah I have noticed some hair algae

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Marty.h
07-03-2016, 12:01 AM
You can use a new toothbrush and scrub the rock when you do a waterchange and have syphon pipe next to it to sick it out of system.

Some hermits will help with that or a kole tang they love the stuff and will flatten it :)

I can't remember if you are running rowaphos or not if you keep nitrates and phosphate low it will help.

All new systems have an algae and diatom bloom ect

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 12:11 AM
I haven't gotten the rowaphos yet I intend to though. I will get a few hermits soon.

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Marty.h
07-03-2016, 12:13 AM
Get rowaphos running ASAP to get the phosphate out of the water to much phosphate = lots of algae so sooner you take control of the nutrients the better :)

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 01:55 PM
Will do.
On another note, They all ate last night so that's a good sign :)

Marty.h
07-03-2016, 02:38 PM
As they are all eating shows they are settling so you on the right track :)

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 03:10 PM
I'm so excited :) I cant believe I have my own reef tank now. I ordered some of those gels so I can take some good photos of the tank.

Slaphppy7
07-03-2016, 03:52 PM
It seems alot less complicated than I thought it would be, BUT you've had some excellent advice and tutoring from Marty thumbs2:

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 04:00 PM
It really isn't that bad, it would have been a lot worse had Marty not been advising. Couldn't of done it with out him helping out, also glad I found a good LFS also.

Marty.h
07-03-2016, 04:48 PM
No need to thank me that's what forums are about helping and advising each other :)

Just glad you are enjoying it and you have the start of a great reef.

Stock slowly and take your time and it will thrive :)

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 06:06 PM
yeah I will maybe add one other fish and top it off with a yellow tang. My next purchase will be some hermits and snails or shrimp CUC. Then wait a week and add another fish, then another week to add the tang.

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 07:24 PM
Do you acclimate hermits?

Marty.h
07-03-2016, 07:29 PM
Yeah drip aclimatise them and take even longer with things like shrimp :)

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 07:51 PM
do you think a pistol shrimp would pair with a jawfish?

Marty.h
07-03-2016, 08:18 PM
It's possible they could pair up and have been known to.

It may be easier to just get one that's already paired with a goby.

They do like to move a lot of earth and excuvate under rocks so make sure your rocks are nice and stable.

Also some pistol and goby combo's can remain very illusive if they decide to live at back of rocks so you may not get to see them much so also bear that in mind.

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 08:27 PM
yeah I made sure my rock was all the way down to the bottom of the tank..i think I am gonna hold off on the shrimp for now, I ordered some hermits and a few cirth snails.

Marty.h
07-03-2016, 09:16 PM
Good choices they will soon get to work on it.

If you start getting algae then with a new toothbrush scrub the rock as you are syphoning water out on a change the algae will then be sucked out of the system.

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 09:54 PM
Thanks will do. how often do you check the param's? every other day? every day? or like once or twice a week?, Also should I feed the clowns everyday? or how often...

Marty.h
07-03-2016, 10:05 PM
I would feed a small amount daily giving one day a week with no food.

Check you parameters weekly to start of with get an app called Aquariamate it's awesome for logging tests I use it can look back then ect. Once the tank has settled monthly or more is then fine or if you spot an issue.

It's only when you start adding a lot of LPS or SPS you have to test more to make sure water changes are keeping up with consumption but you not at that stage yet :)

This a screenshot of Aquariamate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/220gtiturbo/Screenshot_2016-05-30-13-07-09-1_zpsipn8uqem.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/220gtiturbo/Screenshot_2015-12-28-23-09-03_zpstjr7pr35.png

The big dip on above graph is when I added a load of corals so it's handy to look back on I just altered my dosing rate to compensate and bring it back into check.

But you need not worry about dosing yet

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 10:13 PM
Nice app :) I have heard of it, just don't have it yet. I will feed like you suggested :)

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 10:24 PM
I moved the zoa up and it seems to like it better

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Marty.h
07-03-2016, 10:26 PM
Giving 1 day without food I have found to be good as it then means all the stock go for a rummage for food and then clears up any left overs.

I give my system 2 food free days a week but there is more natural food available in my system being a lot older so I would not suggest you do 2 days at present.

It also helps with water quality

Jwfish13
07-03-2016, 11:36 PM
sounds good.

Jwfish13
07-04-2016, 12:49 AM
Corals looking good before lights out

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Jwfish13
07-04-2016, 01:09 AM
heres a short video before lights out.

Also I think I want the GSP to make a carpet across the bottom of the rock. I think that would look good. I hope the gorgonia gets large and tall over on that side.


https://youtu.be/LgX0lMH2yWY

Marty.h
07-04-2016, 07:13 AM
Looking good.

On that rock with the zoa's there looks like an algae growing on it as well it hard to make it out on my phone but looks like bryopsis.

Google "bryopsis"

If it's that you need to get that off that plug and out of your system as that can spread like wildfire and be a complete pain to get rid of.

Jwfish13
07-04-2016, 01:55 PM
will do immediately. Thanks for the heads up.

Jwfish13
07-04-2016, 01:55 PM
Also found one of the clown fish in the sump this morning, they are so tiny I am sure it swam through the overflow.

Marty.h
07-04-2016, 05:14 PM
You will have to keep an eye on them if they ending up in sump as they can easily get damaged on the journey down to sump.

Did you check that algae

Jwfish13
07-04-2016, 07:34 PM
yeah mine looks like brown hair algae, but I do see something that might be bryopsis, gonna see how to get rid of it, I see it in a few other spots.

Marty.h
07-04-2016, 08:53 PM
Best way is to break the bit of rock away with it on or you can use hydrogen peroxide

Google "hydrogen peroxide and bryopsis"

Honestly it is by far the hardest pest algae to rid of so if you see any nip it strait in the bud.

Also keep an eye out for aptasia if you see any inject with aptasia X same as majano's it's best to Google the following.

Not good:

Majano anenome
Aptasia
White Spot
Marine Velvet
Bobbit worm
Teddybear crab
Dinoflagellate algae
Polyclad flatworm
Red planaria flatworm
Nudibranch


Good
Stometella snail
Pineapple sponges
asterina starfish

Ok in small numbers
Bristle worms
Spinoid worms


It's a lot for you to look up but in marine it pays to be able to spot things early and you can then act faster see it as some homework :)

There is others but they the most common I've broken them into groups of Good, Not good and ok

Jwfish13
07-05-2016, 06:15 PM
I moved some corals around today got them more where I like them to be in the end. also dipped my zoa in peroxide bath to kill some of that hair algae.

Also I looked more closely and I don't have bryopsis. what I am seeing is brown hair algae and green hair algae. thank god lol and my clean up crew should be here tomorrow.

will add pics when the corals don't hate me... they are super pissed right now lol

Jwfish13
07-05-2016, 10:07 PM
Marty can you ID this mushroom

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160705/1e086e2a6eb929e880d7f9faee86d5e4.jpg

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Marty.h
07-05-2016, 10:37 PM
Yuma/ Ricordia :)

http://m.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=597+598+658&pcatid=658

Jwfish13
07-05-2016, 10:46 PM
also, I watched the clowns closely while feeding and it looks like they are just spitting out the food... I only have frozen food at the moment. is this normal for clowns to do? are they not eating?

Marty.h
07-05-2016, 11:11 PM
They will be getting something pick some good quality flake up.

Turn flow off while you feed to start of with

Jwfish13
07-05-2016, 11:13 PM
ok will do. ugh I'm looking at sps, I really don't want to do any SPS right now but dang, I'm looking at Acropora they are so cool.

Marty.h
07-05-2016, 11:24 PM
I would wait until tank is at least 6 months + and stable or you will have some expensive skeletons !!

Jwfish13
07-05-2016, 11:26 PM
yeah I don't want to start getting any sps now or even ever... I think I want to keep this a softie/LPS reef. I love the Acans or the Scolymia. Also love the Goniopora. http://worldwidecorals.com/wwc-ironman-micro-goniopora-2.html

Marty.h
07-05-2016, 11:30 PM
I love acro's myself the one in middle here is a blue plannet acro in my tank it's stunning.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160705/9553697f4fb97589ac50ace951a2ed73.jpg

Jwfish13
07-05-2016, 11:36 PM
lol you're killing me!

Marty.h
07-05-2016, 11:37 PM
Gonipora can be a tricky one to keep.

Acans are simple enough and you can bunch them all together just be aware some fish love to nibble on LPS

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 12:51 AM
man my leather is still upset at me. I moved it up a few inches and it is still not fully opened back up, I hope it does tomorrow. the zoa is still closed up tight as well, will check on them tomorrow

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 12:52 AM
I also hope the mushroom starts to get its color back soon. that was a nice little freebie I got there if it colors back out.

Marty.h
07-06-2016, 07:07 AM
When I started I had a leather go moody on me for 2 weeks !!

Corals can get moody and take a while to sort themselves out give them time and they will come round :)

Silbar
07-06-2016, 02:25 PM
I read somewhere where you are having an issue with high TDS in your water. Do you have a RO/DI system?

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 05:37 PM
Yes I got a ro/di system when I got my reef tank, but I had the fresh water tanks before that so the are having issues. At least I think that's what is causing the deaths

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Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 06:05 PM
Clean up crew has arrived just in time. One thing I know is we are gonna need more snails these dwarf certh snails are tiny

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Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 06:06 PM
I have 10 hermits, 1 emerald crab, and 6 dwarf certh snails.

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Marty.h
07-06-2016, 06:06 PM
You can use RO water in your freshwater tank just make sure you buffer it / re mineralise it before hand or X amount parts RO to X amount tap water.

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 06:24 PM
Yeah that's what I have been doing

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Silbar
07-06-2016, 06:37 PM
You can use RO water in your freshwater tank just make sure you buffer it / re mineralise it before hand or X amount parts RO to X amount tap water.
How many parts of RO to Tap water would you use? What do you use to buffer the RO water and is the waste water safe to drink? At what point in the system does the waste water come out?

Marty.h
07-06-2016, 06:38 PM
You cannot drink RO water.

I would go 50/50 and see how it goes

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 06:39 PM
Yeah I go 50/50 in my fw tanks

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Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 06:41 PM
I don't drink the ro/di, but BSR sells ro/di drinking water kits, I just bought the 6 stage ro/di system

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Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 06:48 PM
Emerald crab going to work
Bottom of the rock hard to see

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Marty.h
07-06-2016, 06:54 PM
He will soon have a good munch of all the algae.

Silbar
07-06-2016, 06:59 PM
Looking good thumbs2:

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 07:04 PM
Yeah he is an interesting little guy/girl to watch

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Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 07:04 PM
Thanks Sil

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Silbar
07-06-2016, 08:26 PM
I have really grown to love smaller FW fish, shrimp and snails so much. That is one of the things that is so cool with a SW or reef tank...all the amazing little corals and creatures you can get. It's so good to see how much you and your wife are enjoying yours!!!!!!!

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 08:31 PM
It is always something moving around to watch I love it.

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Marty.h
07-06-2016, 09:46 PM
Put your lights onto red at night then watch as the fish etc can't see red you then get to see all the critters and bugs coming out doing there thing.

Jwfish13
07-06-2016, 10:02 PM
Nice

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Jwfish13
07-07-2016, 08:51 PM
Picked up some more snails and hermits, they are knocking out the algae

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Marty.h
07-07-2016, 10:14 PM
They will soon flatten it sorry for delayed reply was a 14 hour day at work been so busy.

Jwfish13
07-07-2016, 11:26 PM
No problem at all

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Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 04:29 PM
A couple new additions

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Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 04:34 PM
Yellow Tang and Melanurus Wrasse. These will more than likely be the last of my fish as I will focus more on the corals from here.

I think my centerpiece coral may be Scolymias. Something like these (https://austinaquafarms.com/product-category/scolymias/).

Slaphppy7
07-08-2016, 04:39 PM
Congrats on the newbies, very cool!

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 04:40 PM
Thanks Matt. I am on my way out the door now but I have a story to tell about the tang.

Slaphppy7
07-08-2016, 04:42 PM
I'll stay tuned.

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 05:12 PM
When I acclimated the new fish the lfs said to move them to the tank by hand or use a net, all of which I already knew. So I was thinking how in the hell I was gonna do it by hand. Let me tell you I tried it and the tang was so calm, stayed in my hand, didn't freak out or flip or flop. It felt so cool, kind of like we bonded. It was a wonderful experience and I hope all of you can experience it. Made me love this reef tank 100 percent more.

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Silbar
07-08-2016, 05:23 PM
Oh man, Beautiful fish and I love the story! How did the transfer of the wrasse go?

Slaphppy7
07-08-2016, 05:35 PM
Very neat, wish I could catch a few of my fish by hand

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 08:54 PM
The Wrasse was to fast and crazy for a hand transfer so he got to ride in the net to the tank. It was funny soon as he/she hit the water it dove like a torpedo right into the sand all I saw was sand fly up a few inches and didn't see him for 2 days... got these fish 3 days ago. He just came out of the sand this morning.

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 08:55 PM
As I sit here watching these beautiful fish and inverts, I am so glad we decided to do this. It was scary at first but now it is great. I will recommend everyone try their hand at SW even if its just a nano with coral.

Slaphppy7
07-08-2016, 09:00 PM
The wrasse actually BURIED himself in the sand?...wow

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 09:30 PM
Here is a couple videos I took the other day when I got the clean up crew

YouTube Video (https://youtu.be/Oxe2NH491Pc)
YouTube Video (https://youtu.be/F64aFqYzLsM)

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 09:31 PM
I hope these videos are ok to post like this, if you want me to do links I can

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 09:33 PM
The wrasse actually BURIED himself in the sand?...wow

Yeah it literally shot itself into the sand, all I saw was sand blast up a few inches and didn't see it again till this morning lol Its a beautiful fish. Will try and get pics or a video of it soon.

Slaphppy7
07-08-2016, 09:36 PM
Cool vids, the way you posted them is just fine...I like that crab!...tank is cool, you did a fine job with it

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 09:58 PM
Thanks a lot :) it really is a dream come true. Also it would not of happened without this site and the great people on it encouraging and helping. Thank you AC for making this a great journey. :l24:

Jwfish13
07-08-2016, 10:06 PM
not a very good video.... I really have to get a better camera or find out how to get better focus with my phone cause this does not do these fish justice, I almost would not even post this video other than the fact I want you guys to see the fish.


https://youtu.be/XuHxvl8xq_g

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 04:54 AM
Also added that huge rock on the left. Something just wasn't right. It was just way to symmetrical so I added that rock, putty'ed it into place, and the rocks under it for structure so it wouldn't all come crashing down. The putty will get covered by crystalline algae and look normal.

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Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 04:58 PM
I'm thinking maybe one more fish

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Silbar
07-09-2016, 06:34 PM
I'm thinking maybe one more fish

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So funny because you I knew you would get more!

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 06:43 PM
We got the photo gels in today playing around with them.
what do you guys and gals think?


https://youtu.be/hAJcoTtaLms

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 06:44 PM
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Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 06:45 PM
Before and after

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Marty.h
07-09-2016, 07:52 PM
Looks loads better and a very cheap way to get good quality pictures well worth the money pictures look spot on :)

Marty.h
07-09-2016, 07:54 PM
Also just noticed you must be leaving your glass cleaner in the tank better of removing it when not in use as I have seen treads where people have said that water has managed to get inside and cause leaching ill have to see if I can find the threads I always take mine out when not in use :)

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 07:54 PM
yeah we got those ones you linked a few pages back, makes a world of difference.

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 07:55 PM
oh ok will do... didn't know that.

Marty.h
07-09-2016, 07:57 PM
Yeah them gels are awesome for the money one of my best purchases to date at least you can then get a picture as your eyes see it. Surprising what difference they make I was shocked.

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 07:59 PM
Totally! best purchase yet for the phone lol

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 11:15 PM
picked up a pump to pump my water change water from the container to the tank, dipping pitchers really sucks lol

Marty.h
07-09-2016, 11:28 PM
Haha I do that when I do a 200L change mix it all in one container then pump it to the tank makes life a lot easier.

Jwfish13
07-09-2016, 11:50 PM
thumbs2:i'm all for easier

Jwfish13
07-10-2016, 10:29 PM
Well ended up at the reef shop today. I convinced my wife to go to just "look" around. Came out of there with 3 more frags lol. pics to follow

Mrs. JwFish13
07-10-2016, 10:32 PM
Yeah.. "look" lol I knew what I was getting myself into.

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Marty.h
07-10-2016, 11:02 PM
You will soon find its addictive just remember to either dip new corals or give them a good check over for hitchikers as some can be very hard to spot !!

Looking forward to seeing the new editions :)

Slaphppy7
07-10-2016, 11:09 PM
Congrats on the new frags, whatever that is.......:14:

Jwfish13
07-10-2016, 11:15 PM
Frags are bits of coral on frag plugs... let me find a pic of one

Jwfish13
07-10-2016, 11:18 PM
here is a pic of coral frags

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Jwfish13
07-10-2016, 11:22 PM
Here is my new candy cane
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New cabbage leather
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King midas
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160710/fb73370914dbc968531f3da5e78a66cc.jpg
The king midas is the tiny one on top

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Jwfish13
07-10-2016, 11:26 PM
I'm gonna find a better light to shoot the candy cane in so its not so washed out. its really chartreuse.

Marty.h
07-10-2016, 11:30 PM
Looking good just bear in mind if you are planning on SPS later that softies play nuclear warfare and release toxins to stop SPS growing ect. Running some activated carbon will help absorb it.

Keep a close eye on the candy cane as you have put that quite high see how that gets on over next few days if it's still moody move it to sandbed and let it acclimatise to the lighting and slowly move it up to where you want it.

LPS and SPS have to sometimes be light aclimatised depending what lighting and intesity they been use to :)

Jwfish13
07-11-2016, 12:08 AM
Yeah that's what I was thinking, I will keep an eye on it

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Slaphppy7
07-11-2016, 12:11 AM
here is a pic of coral frags

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So, they are grown on a piece of rock?..those are "baby" corals?....what do you do when you get them home?

Jwfish13
07-11-2016, 12:59 AM
I leave them on the plug and place them where I want them to see if the coral is "happy" in that spot and if it is not then I move it and start over. If it is happy then you can separate them from the plug or trim the plug down a bit and then glue them into place.

Jwfish13
07-11-2016, 01:00 AM
yeah that's how you propogate a coral, you cut more mature corals into pieces and fasten them to the plug and so on and so forth

Jwfish13
07-11-2016, 01:09 AM
I set my lights to turn on just red for 30 mins a night to see all the critters

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Jwfish13
07-11-2016, 01:15 AM
its so funny but in the full tank shots it looks like the tank is so small lol. to put it in scale, the top edge of the glass comes to about my nose. tank is 36x18x20 the display tank is actually 56 gallons with a 13 gallon rear sump.

Also set up some lunar lighting for a couple hours from 11:30 to 1:30

BluewaterBoof
07-12-2016, 08:20 PM
Very cool, Jason. I'm super jealous! Each time I try setting up plans to go salt, budget issues prevent me from doing so.

It was very informative following through everything and seeing what you had to do from the beginning. If I can ever get a salty going I will definitely hop over here and follow along.

Jwfish13
07-12-2016, 08:25 PM
Thanks Andre, it really is not much harder than freshwater other than the cost really. the lights and rock is the most expensive other than that it is all preference on most all the other equipment. you can go as expensive as you want or you can start out relatively inexpensive. I was in a position that I could jump in head first. it really is a very enjoying experience to watch the aquarium for a hour or two.

BluewaterBoof
07-12-2016, 08:51 PM
Yeah, our city's aquarium has a small salt display and I love to just stand there and watch all the little polyps and whatnot sway in the current, and the little creatures swimming around. Sea life is so alien compared to freshwater.

Jwfish13
07-12-2016, 09:02 PM
I love the big aquariums. We just went to one here it was amazing, there are some pics my wife took a few pages back in this journal. we are planning to go to the really big one up in Tampa soon. I cant wait!

Marty.h
07-12-2016, 09:08 PM
I spend sometimes hours watching mine there is always something going on somewhere just a totally different world and totally facinating.

Jwfish13
07-12-2016, 09:13 PM
Tests are in for the week.

Ammonia: .2
Nitrite: .05
Nitrate: 10ppm

Ph:8.2
Alk: 8
Cal: 440

I added to many fish at one time.... ugh I forgot that you are only supposed to add 1 fish per week and I added two before I remembered that little tid bit.
Doing a water change momentarily.

Marty.h
07-12-2016, 09:18 PM
Not good you have ammonia and nitrite a waterchange as you are now doing is a must.

Like I said early on nothing good happens fast in a marine tank it all takes time so now let your tank adjust to the current bioload then look at adding another fish once it's caught up.

Trust me when I started I wanted it all in corals , fish the lot and fast and it ended in tears and I lost worth just plod along and let it do its thing :)

Jwfish13
07-12-2016, 09:20 PM
yeah I think I am done adding fish unless something bad happens and I lose some. I totally forgot about adding the 1 fish at a time (blush)

Marty.h
07-12-2016, 09:22 PM
It's okay we all make mistakes but at least you noticed the ammonia and nitrite and are dealing with it.

It should soon clear it I would also not feed at all tomorrow give the tank a food free day which will give the system some help the stock will be fine :)

Silbar
07-12-2016, 09:56 PM
I totally forgot about adding the 1 fish at a time (blush)

The clown fish were small and I probably would have added the two at the same time, also. So you are saying that it would have been better to get one, wait a week, then get the other one?

Does that rule hold true for LPS corals also?

Marty.h
07-12-2016, 10:02 PM
No the clowns should always be added in pairs there bioload is minimal.

The yellow and the others should of followed slowly as a tang does have quite a decent size bioload and once it get bigger you wait till it takes a good poo you will be like can't believe all that just come out of it haha.

Jwfish13
07-12-2016, 10:32 PM
Yeah I added the two clownfish and the jawfish at the same time....then I added a yellow tang and a wrasse together which I should of added the wrasse first then waited a week then the tang.

got the waterchange done.

Silbar
07-13-2016, 12:06 AM
No the clowns should always be added in pairs there bioload is minimal.

The yellow and the others should of followed slowly as a tang does have quite a decent size bioload and once it get bigger you wait till it takes a good poo you will be like can't believe all that just come out of it haha.

That is good to hear. I would love to get a small pair of Snowflake Clowns since they will probably be the only fish in my 20G tank.

Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 02:31 AM
Yeah that seems to be the norm

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Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 02:32 AM
If you want a neat little fish that has personality I am sure you can have a jaw fish they are awesome

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Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 09:47 PM
Here is a new full tank video of our reef. Enjoy!


https://youtu.be/SoxZfLDxXVM

Slaphppy7
07-13-2016, 10:01 PM
Very, very cool...I like it alot...those clowns are so tiny!...how big will they get?...and the tang?...and the wrasse?

How many gallons is this again?

What is that green thing on the back glass?

Does the water level have to stay that low?

Marty.h
07-13-2016, 10:13 PM
Looking good with plenty of flow in there.

The water level is determined by the weir.

It looks like GSP on the back glass but hard to see on phone.

The yellow tang can get to 8" but do not often get that size in captivity

Silbar
07-13-2016, 10:14 PM
Thread: New 69 gallon red sea system
I'll bet it is 69G :14:

Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 10:17 PM
The clowns get about 3 inches, the tang about 7 inches and the wrasse will get about 5 to 6 inches.

It's 69 total, 56 gallon display and 13 gallon sump.

It's a piece of the green star polyp I knocked off the mushroom coral that was on the big Rock that has the GSP. I glued it to the back to hopefully get it to cover the back in a nice carpet.

Yes the water level stays the same due to the water level in the sump.

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Slaphppy7
07-13-2016, 10:23 PM
Thread: New 69 gallon red sea system
I'll bet it is 69G :14:

Well, smarty pants, it's actually 56G, you don't count the sump...I think...:14:

Hey, I know zilch about SW, so expect alot of dumb questions from me, lol

Here's another: Jw, have you ever tasted the water to see just how "salty" the water is...like, ocean salty, or whatever?...or more like something you'd gargle with when you have a sore throat?

Hey, get MrsJw to taste it! thumbs2:

Mrs. JwFish13
07-13-2016, 10:26 PM
I'll pass. Thanks! I'll get our son to taste it LOL

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Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 10:27 PM
It tastes just like sea water, same as you would get if you got a mouth full of water at the beach

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Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 10:28 PM
Lol I actually did taste it when I mixed the first batch

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Marty.h
07-13-2016, 10:30 PM
You do add the DT volume and sump volume to give the total system volume and that's how a marine system will be described size wise. :)

Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 10:31 PM
Yup, so ours is 69 gallon total

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Slaphppy7
07-13-2016, 10:46 PM
It tastes just like sea water, same as you would get if you got a mouth full of water at the beach

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We try not to do that down here...I'm only about 45 minutes from the coast, but I'm afraid I'd swallow a tar ball, lol....I don't even get in the water here, except to wade


You do add the DT volume and sump volume to give the total system volume and that's how a marine system will be described size wise. :)


Yup, so ours is 69 gallon total

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Curses, Sil was right after all...she has a better grasp of the obvious than I do, it is apparent

So...a sump is like a mini-tank on the main tank?...could you raise animals in there?

Jwfish13
07-13-2016, 10:51 PM
Mine is a rear sump, on a separate sump you can add a refugium

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Silbar
07-13-2016, 10:57 PM
Well, smarty pants,
I'm in a feisty mood today...

Jw, what do you use to putty the rocks together and did you have to lower the water level or remove the bottom rock to do it?
See, I have questions, too (blush)

Marty.h
07-13-2016, 10:59 PM
My sump is underneath

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/220gtiturbo/20160425_224240-1_zpsl0ci4o4g.jpg

Basically a 4ft tank with baffles and I have housed fish in there if they been naughty or not been well to give them some time out so you can put livestock in there size permitting as it's just a giant filter and somewhere to put equipment.

Slaphppy7
07-13-2016, 11:20 PM
I'm in a feisty mood today...


See, I have questions, too (blush)

Obviously!....:14:

J/K, I think this is an excellent thread for those contemplating moving to the SW side of the hobby for learning purposes, you's truly included..

But if you know me, tangents will be had on any given thread, as long as the OP does not disapprove...after all, the rules state that we don't hijack another members threads, but unless there's complaints, I see no harm in having a little fun while learning at the same time

Marty.h
07-13-2016, 11:33 PM
I think this will make a great thread for anyone wanting to start up as it does cover quite a bit and will continue to touch on different subjects as the system and stock evolves.

Silbar
07-13-2016, 11:46 PM
Jw, thanks for allowing us to ask so many questions and gain so much new info from your tank build.:22:

Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 12:11 AM
no problem everyone I'm glad our thread is a great learning tool for everyone thinking of coming to the salt side.

Sil I used fluval sea. its an epoxy, I just added it right in the tank, mushed it in all the cracks of the two rocks. It looks like crap now but once the coralline algae covers it, it will be invisible.

Silbar
07-14-2016, 02:04 AM
I love the height that extra rock gives and it also provides more rock surface for corals...win, winthumbs2:
I was just reading Cliff's blog on live and curing rock. So much to understand. I will certainly be checking out the rocks and corals tomorrow whe I stop by the SW lfs in Athens after my dr appt. I will be walking in with a little more knowledge thanks to you guys.

Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 12:10 PM
Thanks Sil, it was missing that something so I added that rock and it did the trick

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Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 03:12 PM
let us know how the sw lfs was sil I am curious

Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 04:14 PM
Couple of close ups
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Slaphppy7
07-14-2016, 04:23 PM
Nice pics...where's the crab?

Boundava
07-14-2016, 04:34 PM
Beautiful, love the fish and the corals...think I would do a coral tank with just inverts if I had a chance, so beautiful.

Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 04:44 PM
The emerald crab is in the rocks somewhere, he is pretty shy, like you guys plecos, there are a bunch of hermits cruising around. I will try and get a pic of some hermits

Thanks Nat, it really is a joy

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Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 07:49 PM
Got in the screen top kit from bulk reef supply today.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160714/6b329e878b630306eca5f836bcbbfda7.jpg
And my salt for water changes
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160714/ce2f82edf43527838e64ca680bc24e8c.jpg

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Boundava
07-14-2016, 08:34 PM
no problem everyone I'm glad our thread is a great learning tool for everyone thinking of coming to the salt side.


I am sorry I just couldn't help myself :slap:

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Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 08:38 PM
lol the struggle is real... well I wouldn't call it a struggle. the only other freshwater we're gonna do is the 20L 4 way betta build... the rest will be salt. already got plans for a nano and a 60g cube for a puffer.

Marty.h
07-14-2016, 09:46 PM
Good choice of salt I use that and mix 1910g per 50L of water.

Jwfish13
07-14-2016, 11:25 PM
Nice

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Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 12:13 AM
Hey Marty, when do you think we could add a goby or a sand sifting star?

Silbar
07-15-2016, 01:26 AM
let us know how the sw lfs was sil I am curious

I don't want to hijack too much so I'll be brief . They will be getting a new 30g cube system soon. I don't remember the brand but I will find out soon. It also comes with the LED lights and runs about $300. If the size fits my spot that might be an option for me instead of going with my 20g. By the the time I bought a filter and light for the 20g it would cost the same. This would allow me more stocking options. I would be able to get a jaw fish then.
Their live rock is $8/pound. They have Friday sales so I got on their email list for that. Their frags were nice but mostly $50 on up.
Anyway, lots to think about. I might even look in to a few SW lfs in Atlanta the next time I am down there.

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 03:02 AM
That sounds like a good deal, I would go for that. They seem a little high on their prices,they must be the only store around. The rock isn't terribly priced. How did the corals look?

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Silbar
07-15-2016, 03:15 AM
Yes they are the only SW store in the area. The corals looked good but I would like to compare things to a few of the stores in Atlanta. Until then I will be vicariously enjoying your tank.

Marty.h
07-15-2016, 06:40 AM
Hey Marty, when do you think we could add a goby or a sand sifting star?
I would personally leave it at least 6 months this will give plenty of time for your sandbed to mature if not they are only likely to die if put in to early.

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 11:53 AM
Thanks Marty, I will wait then.

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Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 08:09 PM
Here is a pic of the emerald crab, it's hard to see it, he camouflages very well
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160715/2565a4b5292f3407afdce9bf5b974801.jpg

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Slaphppy7
07-15-2016, 08:13 PM
I can't find him, but my eyes aren't what they used to be!

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 08:15 PM
he is about an inch or two up from that pebble on the sand in the dark spot, he is a greenish color ,very hard to see

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 08:17 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160715/72f2f5343f0a9bd62d52eab25f934733.jpg

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Slaphppy7
07-15-2016, 08:17 PM
I think I see him now!...cool

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 08:18 PM
check the post above I circled him

Slaphppy7
07-15-2016, 08:21 PM
I see him now...how did you get that medallion of you and Mrs. Jw stuck on the coral?

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 08:22 PM
lol I just noticed that, when I edited the pic it was my messenger app lol hope Mrs. JW doesn't mind lol

Boundava
07-15-2016, 08:23 PM
Cool, a shadow crab, so mysterious!

Slaphppy7
07-15-2016, 08:24 PM
LOL...pretty funny

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 08:30 PM
oh btw we added a peppermint shrimp the other day.... only seen it a couple times since then. I will try and get a pic next time we spot it out. and also I good video of the hermits out doing their thing. They usually are more active towards evening.

Marty.h
07-15-2016, 09:52 PM
Just be aware some peppermint shrimp have been known to eat corals.

Also they don't get on with cleaner shrimp generally they are also mainly active at nights and will generally eat any pest aptasia you may have :)

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 09:59 PM
Yeah I will keep an eye on it, if it starts to nip, it will be on the barbie

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Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 10:00 PM
Also do you have a battery back up?

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Marty.h
07-15-2016, 10:38 PM
No its on my to do list we very rarely have cuts here though.

Jwfish13
07-15-2016, 10:40 PM
our power cuts out for a second or two during a storm almost everytime.... I just don't want anything to blow.

Mrs. JwFish13
07-16-2016, 11:25 AM
I see him now...how did you get that medallion of you and Mrs. Jw stuck on the coral?
LOL!

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Jwfish13
07-16-2016, 09:09 PM
weekly water tests:

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: .05 still ugh
Nitrate: 5-10
Alk: 10.5
Cal: 450
Ph: 8.2

please please please listen to advice about stocking Saltwater tanks! write notes, set alarms whatever you do just go SLOW with stocking. Our fish are still doing fine no ill effects and all corals look great but you will save yourself a lot of headache with water changes otherwise.

Marty.h
07-16-2016, 09:13 PM
I would also get the nitrite tested as LFS to confirm as I would of expected that to be gone by now

Jwfish13
07-16-2016, 10:17 PM
same here, it was gone when I first added the coral, its weird. I will have a LFS test it.

I mean everything else is pretty much spot on

Jwfish13
07-17-2016, 09:38 PM
Looks like we may have to invest in a chiller as well or see about a DIY chiller. I have been monitoring my temps and I am not running a heater at all and the temps are creeping up to around 82*F actually 82.5*F so I may need to start looking at cooling the water some how.

Jwfish13
07-18-2016, 11:54 PM
did more water tests today, I am much happier with them this time around. everything is spot on except Alkalinity is a tad low ideal range is 9-11 mine is sitting at 8.5 regularly. but I haven't started using the red sea salt yet. see what happens when I transition over to that salt.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5 ppm

Ph: 8.2
Alk: 8.5
Calcium: 460

Boundava
07-19-2016, 04:43 PM
Do you think some fans would work? You can lay them on the screen...unless you don't want that much evaporate cooling?

https://www.amazon.com/iPettie-Aquarium-Cooling-Chiller-Adapter/dp/B00M9UV9LI/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1468946985&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=aquarium+fans&psc=1

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Jwfish13
07-19-2016, 06:47 PM
I may use fans, but after I get an AT&T. It evaporates so fast now, I have to put about half to 3/4 of a gallon every day

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Boundava
07-19-2016, 07:22 PM
Wow that is a lot of evaporation! Is is better to have open tops for saltwater tanks to encourage evaporation, another reason...or just personal preference?

Jwfish13
07-19-2016, 10:41 PM
you know that is a good question.. I have never thought about if it was better to have a rimless or not

Marty.h
07-19-2016, 10:54 PM
Having open top gives far better gas exchange which helps PH.

I'm presently evaporating 30+ litres a week as it's been 30 or so here.

With regards to cooling I'm now making a fan cooling unit for mine that runs 6 possibly 8 120mm fans 8 is depending if driver can handle load yet to be tested.

I will couple that with an STC and that will control heaters and fans total system cost including fans less then 100 and much better then any shop bought ones.

This the size of the fans

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160719/a16e1dc55056078ae3ad0acb6871f0b1.jpg

Jwfish13
07-19-2016, 11:51 PM
I may try that as well. if it will cool it down enough. also saw a DIY chiller using a mini fridge and tubing... the fans would be cheaper to try first. BTW what is a STC?

Marty.h
07-20-2016, 12:14 AM
STC is a temp controller it has a probe that you put in water and say you set it to min 25.5c it puts power to heaters then say max is 26.5c once that is reached it turns power of to heaters and powers fans up.

Good thing is if a heater sticks on that controller will see the temp going up and once max temp programed is reached it takes power away from heater and then puts fans on till back to min then heater on again so no chance of the tank being boiled by a heater sticking on.

I hope to have mine all made and wired up within a couple of weeks just waiting for all the parts then I may do a thread on how to make the cooling fan unit and wire up.the STC obviously for those not in UK you would have to use what ever type of plugs you use there as we have 3 pin. If that would be of interest to people

But STC and fans all in around 100 working should be about the full cost

Boundava
07-20-2016, 12:16 AM
Having open top gives far better gas exchange which helps PH.



I would have never thought of that but it makes 100% sense!

Slaphppy7
07-20-2016, 01:00 AM
also saw a DIY chiller using a mini fridge and tubing... the fans would be cheaper to try first.

Yes, they would, lol...significantly

Jwfish13
07-20-2016, 01:57 AM
Yeah but even a mini fridge is way cheaper than a chiller. Those are around 500 to 800 bucks. I like the fan and controller idea.

And please start a thread Marty I would love to know how to wire it up

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Marty.h
07-20-2016, 07:47 PM
Yeah but even a mini fridge is way cheaper than a chiller. Those are around 500 to 800 bucks. I like the fan and controller idea.

And please start a thread Marty I would love to know how to wire it up

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I have started a thread here :)

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=124208

Jwfish13
07-20-2016, 08:45 PM
A few pics of the fish
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Jwfish13
07-20-2016, 08:53 PM
whoops! bad pics lol finger in the picture... jeez having an off day today. and my GSP is pissed for no reason I could tell. I did have to blow a few grains of sand off of it so maybe that's why.

Marty.h
07-20-2016, 09:04 PM
It can be a moody coral it will sort it's self out looking good though :)

Jwfish13
07-20-2016, 09:09 PM
Thanks man, I cant wait for the 6-8 month mark so I can add a sand sifting gobie that brown sand is an eye sore :p

Marty.h
07-20-2016, 09:17 PM
That's diatoms and normal in a new tank they will burn out and sand will go back to white ;)

Jwfish13
07-20-2016, 09:29 PM
good! I cant wait for that.

Jwfish13
07-21-2016, 08:22 PM
I wanted to show my sump because I don't think I have shown it before

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Jwfish13
07-22-2016, 10:49 PM
I know I said I wouldn't get an sps. But low and behold I got a small frag of rainbow monti

Will post pics when I get home
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Jwfish13
07-23-2016, 04:35 PM
Here is the best I could do to get a pic of the new rainbow monti

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Marty.h
07-23-2016, 05:10 PM
They a stunning SPS I have one :)


Once settled that grows fast and will easily take over the rock that is sitting on so make sure wherever you place it you don't mind it having all the rock as it will :)

Jwfish13
07-23-2016, 07:55 PM
That's what I'm hoping that it will do. That rock is big and bare

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Marty.h
07-23-2016, 08:42 PM
You could if you want get something like a branching montipora and put a few around on that rock once that encrusting one gets to it and it should grow around them leaving like a mutual area of a few mm in between them get some cheap frags as montipora the easier ones except forest fire that's a difficult one and acros for a new system

Jwfish13
07-23-2016, 10:56 PM
you mean acros are hard for a new system? I want some acros at some point

Marty.h
07-23-2016, 11:26 PM
Yeah you will be able to once tank more mature they are not as forgiving as montipora

Jwfish13
07-23-2016, 11:29 PM
yeah that's what I thought you were saying... yeah we are pretty much done adding things for now.... hit the budget ceiling lol.. but 6 months to a year and I want to get some acros and some other harder corals... fingers crossed we will have a bigger tank in the future.

Jwfish13
07-24-2016, 12:24 AM
I joined a local reef club a while back, there is a guy giving away paly frags! and some digitata frags.... I messaged him about the palys... I wouldn't mind having a few more... well I know they aren't the same thing as Zoanthids but they are close. And if I can get them for free even better!

Marty.h
07-24-2016, 01:44 AM
They can also spread like mad !!! If you planning on SPS ect I would personally steer clear of palys as if the time comes and you want them out that's a headache.

Jwfish13
07-24-2016, 10:04 PM
Hey Marty, do you constantly tinker with your tank? like move stuff around, move rocks things like that? I got a blue hairy mushroom frag from that guy in the club and I got a couple of the free paly frags as well. I know you said it would be a pain to remove but it really looked cool and I don't plan on having but a couple sps so I said what the heck lol but back to my topic , I am in the midst of rescaping the tank a bit lol moving rocks and corals and what not. I will post some pics when finished besides today is water change day anyways... my god the diatoms are everywhere lol gotta clean the glass several times a day lol.

BTW that guys tank was amazing I wish I could of gotten some pics.... I will visit him more so maybe down the road I can snap a few pics.

Marty.h
07-24-2016, 10:37 PM
I very rarely put my hands in there as it instantly flattens skimmer you get contaminates of skin ect and you stress the fish out so hands going in is a very last resort on my tank unless I'm putting a coral in ect then not much choice.

When it was new I tinkered all the time but then realised it's detrimental to the tank.

Jwfish13
07-24-2016, 11:10 PM
:( gottcha, no more tinkering unless last resort.... I'm still such a noob lol

Jwfish13
07-24-2016, 11:12 PM
Here are some picks
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/89aa65106ecaaf4fe895e49292ca5bbc.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/5dea8e53dfbd55880b13eadcc357d8c9.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/29170c5a7d6657125ee395771e422f74.jpg

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Jwfish13
07-24-2016, 11:12 PM
Full tank shot
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/4f98330564a55f63d879523676619f67.jpg

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Jwfish13
07-24-2016, 11:14 PM
Forgot the pic of the Blue Hairy mushroom

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Jwfish13
07-25-2016, 05:07 PM
Blue Hairy mushroom
Picture does them no justice. I will work on a better pic
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Jwfish13
07-25-2016, 05:21 PM
Cool story I almost forgot to tell, when I was over at Ron's house yesterday picking up the new coral he was telling us about all the stuff he and his wife would gather from the beaches while snorkeling. He showed us some zoanthids and some gorgonia he got down in the keys also some hermit crabs and emerald crabs and even the rare ruby crab it was so cool seeing all of this and hearing the stories.

He also gave us a mangrove sapling I guess that is what it's called. He has a cup full of them that I guess he gives away. He said it would help to control nitrates and phosphate, I know it would only be a tiny amount but it looked cool in his tank, I have a pic of it, his is about two feet and was coming out of the water it was really cool.

Here is the one I put in our tank
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Jwfish13
07-27-2016, 01:53 AM
I wish there were more saltwater enthusiasts on the AC. I get that is mostly a fresh water forum but still, it's too bad the saltwater side isn't more active. As of now I'm gonna have to resort to other forums, I will always call AC home and I will lurk everyday but look to other more saltwater oriented forums for help.

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