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  1. Default New Aquarium Owner! Cycling Help


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    Hi. I'm completely new to the tropical fish hobbie but i've been reading countless amounts of information on the dos and don'ts. Ok, I set up my 60ltr aquarium last Saturday and I used Nutrafin Cycle that came with the tank. I used it for the first three days as indicated. I got a huge bacteria bloom that lasted about three days. Yesterday morning I woke up and noticed that the water was significantly clearer and today it's almost crystal. I don't have any fish yet as I want to cycle the tank before they're added. I've been putting in some fish food flakes as advised in order to add some ammonia. I've been putting in a few drops of flakes for the past three days. The food doesn't seem to be decomposing though, so I've stopped because It will start to build up. For the first time, I checked the water today just to see where I was in the cycle. Here are the results:

    Ammonia: 0.5/1.0
    Nitrate: 0
    Nitrite: 0
    PH: 7.6

    I know that these aren't the desired conditions for fish just yet. Can anyone tell me how far I might be into the cycle based on that or if I need to do a water change, also any tips on what might speed things up.

    Thanks so much.

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    You're just starting your cycle. From what i've heard on this forum, ammonia eating bacteria and nitrAte eating bacteria grow first. the NitrIte eating bacteria take longer to grow.

    How many gallons is your tank? that also affects how long your cycle may take sometimes. Also it may help you to read Lady Hobbs's Cycling Stickies.

    20 gallon tall -7 paskai's rainbowfish (neons and blue eyes), 8 rasbora het, 2 blue ninja shrimp, 9 cherry shrimp, 3 algae eating shrimp, 2 nerite snail, 2 pc driftwood planted with anubias and narrowleaf java fern.
    Other plants in tank - 1 bunch anacharis (separated), 1 bunch water wysteria (separated), 1 red wendii, Mossball, 1 microsword plant (separated), 1 package of staurogyne repense (separated)

    Cinnamon = 9 year old Siamese Cat[
    1 Rat - Domino aka Domi
    1 Robo hamster - Spice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shidohari
    You're just starting your cycle. From what i've heard on this forum, ammonia eating bacteria and nitrAte eating bacteria grow first. the NitrIte eating bacteria take longer to grow.

    How many gallons is your tank? that also affects how long your cycle may take sometimes. Also it may help you to read Lady Hobbs's Cycling Stickies.
    My tank is 13 gallons so not that big really. I just read Lady Hobbs's guide and it helped a lot. A water change is a bad idea I see. I'm very tempted to buy some pure ammonia and stop with the fish flakes, it sounds quicker. Also my temperature is about 24c at the minute. I could turn it up, I had it at about 27c at first but it was producing a lot of condensation on the glass and it wilted a few ferns so I turned it down.

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    If you are cycling with fish YOU HAVE TO DO WATER CHANGES. Your ammonia and NitrItes and NitrAtes could be high unless you've tested your water. also you won't see nitrItes for the first couple weeks of your cycle.

    The number of fish in your tank can affect how often you need to do these water changes, especially if you've got too many for your tank size. (take it from me having that issue on that) I just finished a week's worth of water changes due to my nitrItes in my 10 gallon being 3.0. From what i have also heard on this forum relayed to me NitrItes are the most lethal of the three chemicals.

    check to see what temperture your fish require. I know you're doing celsius while we do farenheit over here...but most fish have a average freshwater range of 72-78. Yours may require higher or lower temperture range due to what they are.

    There are alot of specific fish boards on this forum, you should check them out if one fits along the types of fish that you have. That way you can determine the temperature all your fish can survive in.

    Hope this helps, and welcome to the school

    20 gallon tall -7 paskai's rainbowfish (neons and blue eyes), 8 rasbora het, 2 blue ninja shrimp, 9 cherry shrimp, 3 algae eating shrimp, 2 nerite snail, 2 pc driftwood planted with anubias and narrowleaf java fern.
    Other plants in tank - 1 bunch anacharis (separated), 1 bunch water wysteria (separated), 1 red wendii, Mossball, 1 microsword plant (separated), 1 package of staurogyne repense (separated)

    Cinnamon = 9 year old Siamese Cat[
    1 Rat - Domino aka Domi
    1 Robo hamster - Spice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shidohari
    If you are cycling with fish YOU HAVE TO DO WATER CHANGES. Your ammonia and NitrItes and NitrAtes could be high unless you've tested your water. also you won't see nitrItes for the first couple weeks of your cycle.

    The number of fish in your tank can affect how often you need to do these water changes, especially if you've got too many for your tank size. (take it from me having that issue on that) I just finished a week's worth of water changes due to my nitrItes in my 10 gallon being 3.0. From what i have also heard on this forum relayed to me NitrItes are the most lethal of the three chemicals.

    check to see what temperture your fish require. I know you're doing celsius while we do farenheit over here...but most fish have a average freshwater range of 72-78. Yours may require higher or lower temperture range due to what they are.

    There are alot of specific fish boards on this forum, you should check them out if one fits along the types of fish that you have. That way you can determine the temperature all your fish can survive in.

    Hope this helps, and welcome to the school
    I'm doing a fishless cycle so I don't need to worry about temperatures or ammonia levels harming them. Also, I know what fish I'm getting and i've checked the ideal temps for each one, 24c is perfect for them. They're small and pretty hardy.

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    Ah i thought you were doing a With fish cycle. My bad. Then definately don't change the water.

    Sorry about that.

    20 gallon tall -7 paskai's rainbowfish (neons and blue eyes), 8 rasbora het, 2 blue ninja shrimp, 9 cherry shrimp, 3 algae eating shrimp, 2 nerite snail, 2 pc driftwood planted with anubias and narrowleaf java fern.
    Other plants in tank - 1 bunch anacharis (separated), 1 bunch water wysteria (separated), 1 red wendii, Mossball, 1 microsword plant (separated), 1 package of staurogyne repense (separated)

    Cinnamon = 9 year old Siamese Cat[
    1 Rat - Domino aka Domi
    1 Robo hamster - Spice

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    Default Apologies for missing it before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shidohari
    You're just starting your cycle. From what i've heard on this forum, ammonia eating bacteria and nitrAte eating bacteria grow first. the NitrIte eating bacteria take longer to grow.
    I would like to mildly correct this from post 2.

    There's only ammonia eating bacteria and the NitrIte eating bacteria and they show up in that order. Effectively there are no NitrAte eating BB in FW. TrAtes are removed via water changes although plants also utilize them to some degree.

    Here is a bit more about what you are trying to accomplish in your tank. [IMO - Ignore the 'drops per dose' for ammonia part of it please, The 'testing to see where you are' method is far more accurate.]
    Gas mileage isn't everything OIIIIIIIO
    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
    Why pretend there are no stupid questions? Actually, There are many stupid questions: "Should I drink this bleach?" Is just one example.
    Having said that, Just because it's a stupid question doesn't mean that it shouldn't be asked. It's better to know.

    A warm beer is better than a cold beer. Because nothing is better than a cold beer, and a warm beer is better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 850R
    I would like to mildly correct this from post 2.

    There's only ammonia eating bacteria and the NitrIte eating bacteria and they show up in that order. Effectively there are no NitrAte eating BB in FW. TrAtes are removed via water changes although plants also utilize them to some degree.
    Thanks for correcting 850. I was just about to until saw you had caught that.

    @crackfox.......I don't buy the test kits, either. I buy just as you do, the ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. That's all I need. From buying the kits in the past, I must have 10 bottles of High pH testers around here that I don't need.

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    @crackfox.......I don't buy the test kits, either. I buy just as you do, the ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. That's all I need. From buying the kits in the past, I must have 10 bottles of High pH testers around here that I don't need.

    Ah right. Well the strips i've been using measure ph levels and they've been pretty concise so far. I'll carry on using them to measure ph levels. Unfortunately my nitrite kit didn't come today, the post is terrible around Christmas time. Ammonia levels roughly the same, i'd say slightly lighter colour than yesterday's readings but still no nitrite showing up on the test strip. A quick question and sorry if it's a stupid one. Say my tank is hovering around 1ppm/2ppm, will the nitrite still develop even when the ammonia level is very low? Does it have to be over a certain amount or is the tiniest bit enough to bring the onset of nitrites, no matter how long it takes?

    I'm just a bit worried that my ammonia levels might be too low to kick start the nitrite growth.

    Just to clarify my ammonia levels are about 2ppm (possibly at the low end and scraping the 1ppm mark)

    Edit: I'm running a 15Gl tank.
    Thanks
    Last edited by CrackFox; 11-20-2012 at 04:43 PM.

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