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10-16-2012, 12:01 AM #1
Potassium Permanganate Dips - Anchor Worms
Hi there AC'ers :)
I've tried 4+ different treatments on my blood parrot for anchor worms to no avail - Touches the surface - worm disappears but entry wound does not.. 1-2 days after medication worm returns I'm in about $150+ on this one fish because first i set up his own 20gal hospital tank to treat him in/away from my other fish.
After reading on various forums I decided I had nothing to lose and would try the Potassium Permanganate dip described here: http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Potassium_permanganate I just did his first treatment as instructed... Does anyone know, should I repeat daily? Or what would you recommend here?
If this treatment doesn't work -- I have to give up - it's been 2+ months of treating this one fish... Mysteriously the LFS's tank of them has been replaced with another type of parrot cichlid? All gone?? So I assume all were affected
10-16-2012, 01:24 AM #2
Anchors Away or Clout will work.
Vac the substrate, as well, to make sure worms are not there. But if you see a worm exist and several days later see another, it may be that a worm has hatched eggs inside the fish and they are hatching. Anchor Worms can only be killed with Anchor Worm medication. I don't know what else you used but it must state for anchors.
From my understanding about anchor worms is that the female worm crawls inside the fish and lays her eggs and then exists. Anchor worm medication is supposed to draw the female worm out and kill the eggs she has laid. The wound will heal once the worm is out.
Last edited by Lady Hobbs; 10-16-2012 at 03:05 AM.
10-19-2012, 12:35 AM #3
All of the medication I've used has been anti-parasitic said to kill anchor worms - Follow it by the BOOK and that is when the worm disappears.. Then 2-3 days after the treatment is completed; partial water change; etc it appears again - Never has the red ulcer went away 100%
So on the dips??? Every day or every 2 or? Is 10mg per liter accurate for 30min? First thing I read was an 8 liter recipe with like 1/16 tsp per gallon for 5 minutes.. Then I found another that was 10mg (1/16tsp) PP per lt for 30 minutes?? I'd love to save my blood parrot - but after all this time not sure it's going to happen..
O and I've never seen any in tank; gravel or otherwise... This fish is in his own tank and has been since very early on in this illness... It was a new set up tho I used active water out of my Malawi tank to avoid cycling from scratch on top of him being ill :(
Oddly when I first bouht these I bought 3 -- 1st one disappeared?? 2nd one got chewed to shreds (LFS told me they'd be safe with my malawi cichlids - But now I wonder if the whole batch was sick... mysteriously the tank at my LFS is replaced with different ones now??
10-19-2012, 02:21 AM #4
Oh boy. South American cichlids never belong with Malawi's. The only thing that belongs with Malawi's is other Malawi's. If you can cure him, he can't be returned to that tank or they will tear him apart like the other parrot. This is really too bad because parrots are wonderful fish. I have 5 in a 55 gallon and they're my favorite of all.
10 mg of potassium permanganate is mixed with one litre of water. Bathing for 20 to 30 minutes.
This is all I have found. It said nothing about repeated dips but I would think if the worm is still there, that I would repeat it the following day.
Adding water to a tank from another tank does not cycle a tank. The bacteria is in the filter, not in the water.
Last edited by Lady Hobbs; 10-19-2012 at 02:27 AM.
10-19-2012, 10:32 AM #5
Yea, when I found the 2nd chewed to shreds and pulled the 3rd (actually thought his ulcer was a bite)I did some research and found that they shouldnt be mixed. If he makes it he will stay in the 20 alone with a pleco (right now he's tiny - about the size of a half dollar) If he out grows it we'll cross that road Didn't want to buy another 40+ for one fish - I live in a tiny house and we have 5 setups... LOL :) I love them tho.
Did the dip for 10min and got scared and pulled him.... tho the dangly ickiness went away... Now that I have confirmation - I will try the 30min... I'll report back :)
10-19-2012, 11:59 AM #6
You need to careful check the water parameters in the new tank right now, and every day for some weeks. The new filter will take that long to cycle. Adding old tank water will do almost nothing. Best of luck and as the ammonia, then nitrites climb, do 75% water changes, not small ones, to lower any such waste from the new tank. These fish are injured and will quickly be harmed by waste.
10-19-2012, 02:01 PM #7
The one he is in now he's been in for 6 wks or more. I tested early on around the 2 wk mark and all was within reason. I will test tonight tho and make sure that it is still ok.
I have done probably 4 - 50 percent changes over the last month or so. Should I really do 75. And how often?
Everyone is laughing at me because I am doing so much for 1 fish. But I can't let him die with out trying.
10-19-2012, 06:02 PM #8
Well.....now there is another problem. Blood parrots get to 6-7". He simply can not be in a 20 gallon and especially with a pleco. Is the pleco a common pleco like all the stores carry? They reach over a foot.
I would keep him in nothing less than 40 gallons and not keep the pleco at all.