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Thread: Pulling Angel eggs
10-14-2012, 07:48 PM #1
Pulling Angel eggs
A couple of questions if I were to pull the eggs on a future spawning. I have both a sponge filter (not yet seeded) and air stone. Are both needed at the time the eggs are first removed to the new tank? Or just the air stone until there are free swimming fry, then I add the sponge filter?
If I were to use hydrogen peroxide instead of methylene blue, how much would be needed for about 3 gallons? And am I correct that this would have to be added each day (but methylene blue only once) until there are wrigglers?
How long should the sponge filter be in the main tank to be considered "seeded"?
Thanks for any assistance.
10-14-2012, 10:00 PM #2
I don't how how 3 gallons would even work. How would you even raise them in that? But generally the tank is set up with a seeded sponge filter, the slate, wood or whatever they spawned on moved into the breeder, fungal remover added. I can't answer on the peroxide.
10-14-2012, 10:49 PM #3
The sponge filter should provide adequate circulation. I Have never used peroxide. There are commercial preparations you can buy if you dont want to use the meth blue
10-15-2012, 01:54 AM #4
They wouldn't be raised in the 3 gallon; this is just until free swimming. Looking on the angelsplus web site, they use one gallon jars for the eggs until free swimming, then the fry are moved to anything from 2.5 gallon to 10 gallon, depending on the amount of fry. They talk about an air bubbler in the jar and a sponge filter in the larger tank when the free swimmers are moved. I wasn't sure if I used the sponge filter in the smaller jar/tank with the eggs if it would mess with the peroxide or methylene blue.
I'm still in the stages of thinking through if I want to try this or not. As angels will do, they are spawning regularly and so far I've just left the eggs with the parents. They always spawn on a leaf of a larger anubias so it would be easy to pull. I had free swimmers just once on their third spawn for about 3 days until they picked them off. Since then, they haven't got beyond wriggler stage, and twice the eggs were gone within a day.
I'd rather see the parents raise a spawn, but it looks like my pair have regressed in their parenting skills rather than advanced. If I take on trying to raise a spawn, I'd make sure I was properly prepared for each move.
10-15-2012, 02:58 AM #5
The sponge filter initially has organisms that will eat the eggs.
Use a very clean 2.5 gallon tank, add tap water at 82F, add half a capful of Amquel, add a capful of HP, swish, wait 5 minutes. Pull spawn, place into 2.5. Place a sterile piece of hose into tank and aerate, it does not matter if it hits the eggs or not, a fair bit of a flow of air but not drastic, about as much as the fry would tolerate. No redose here. When the fry break the casing add a well seasoned sponge filter, do not water change even if the water clouds, the change shocks the fry. The sponge will convert the ammonia and not shock the fry. If the ammonia level got too high the fry are done any way. Once the fry become mobile and can move add a few snails to eat the extra food.
This works on all egg layers BTW.
10-15-2012, 01:16 PM #6
Thanks so much - very clear. Can I use Prime in place of Amquel, or does Amquel have something extra beneficial in it?
They just finished off a spawn so I have a couple of weeks to get ready for the next.
10-15-2012, 02:04 PM #7
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