56 Gallon Planted Community Tank ^^

[ChaosWolf]

I am currently working on a 56 gallon planted community tank n been getting requests for me to make a journal on it.
My Goal is to stock it with:
10 Cardinal Tetra
10 Congo Tetra
10 Harlequin Rasbora
10 Panda Cory
2-4 Rams
1 Angel
1 algae Eater or Otocinclus
Plants:
Amazon Swords,Italian Vals,Curly Vals,gaint Vals,HornWort,and a few other randoms.
My Tank is currently
56 Gallon - Dimensions: 30" W x 18" D x 24" H
50lb gravel/30lbs Flora substrate
2 of Aqueon 06079 QuietFlow 55/75 Power Filter, 400-GPH (planning to switch to a eheim 2217)
Zoo Med AquaSun T5-HO Double Light Linear Fluorescent Hood, 30-Inch
"2 of Zoo Med Ultra Sun Trichromatic Super Daylight Bulb T5 High Output 24 Watts, 22-Inch"
Aqueon® Submersible Aquarium Heater 300Watt
i also use peat moss in my filters to keep it more tannec n acid

Current Stock:
2 Harlequin Rasbora
5 Cardinal Tetra
1 Angel
3 German Blue Rams
1 Golden Ram
8 Panda Cory
1 algae Eater
1 Zebra Nerite (plant stole away)

Photo:



i need a better camra before i can take pictures of the fishies thought ._.

[ChaosWolf]

had 4 german blue rams had to take 1 back to the store because it seemed like n odd number of rams brought out alot of agression so now 2 females hang out together and blue n golden hang out lol

[imma24]

From what I've learned about ottos - they need a group. I can't advise about whether your list will lead to future harmony or not, though. That's also a lotta fish for that sized tank - I assume you aren't necessarily looking to put everything in but want to know what would work together?

[ChaosWolf]

the goal was to put all that in it i was asking around from what i understand it should work out fine. i do 25-30% water changes weekly and have 2217 filter hoping this would all work. and yeah i know Otto's need to be in group i might just cut them out all together n get a few more snails.
so far the Harlequins and cardinals get along great.The rams im haveing great luck with they are vey very peaceful i been reading they uslay bug the cory's but im having none of this everyone is doing great im currently trying to get my Harlequins and cardinals to 10/10 but im haveing a hard time with finding a good stock of these the ones i been finding don't look that great ._. .My angel is the best fish in the world too No aggression towards anything at all! but we will see what happens as the tank ages i tried to get all the more aggressive/semi aggressive fish 1st in hopes they will grow n be used to it they are all young fish.

[imma24]

Wow - that's about 45 fish in a 56gal - with an angel that doesn't exactly stay small and the other fish eventually grow too - that is seeming a bit overstocked to me, even with over filtration.

I would bet that you would eventually see more aggression than you'd like - I think they'd feel cramped in there after a while. But that's just my opinion.

[ChaosWolf]

yeah if i start seeing agression i will probly end up takeing some back but im hopeing this works out good cause atm the Harquins stay at the top,Cardinals are middle,n cories are bottom n wall crazy things the rams stay towards bottom too while angel wanders everywhere. idk if congo is middle or top but im thinking it should work being where they stay and such.
Also i`ve kind of been thinking of cutting out the Harlequins im not sure yet just because i can`t really find any good ones but im not sure yet ._.

[imma24]

I'm wondering why you are willing to take the chance on the aggression part - I mean, stressed out fish can become ill and infect other fish - you never know what stress could bring on and with that many fish in there, it could be difficult to single out the "bad guys" to remove it or them from the tank.

Please consider this before adding all those fish

[gronlaura]

Just as a starting point, here is what AQAdvisor has for your current stocking list (what is in your tank now) and filtration:

Warning: Chinese Algae Eater is too aggressive to co-exist with Cardinal Tetra.
Warning: At least 5 x Harlequin Rasbora are recommended in a group.
Warning: Chinese Algae Eater is too aggressive to co-exist with Harlequin Rasbora.
Note: Chinese Algae Eater will become incredibly aggressive and destructive when they become adults.
Warning: Chinese Algae Eater is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 11 inches.
Warning: Your selected species may eventually require 170% of your aquarium space. You may need to deal with territorial aggressions later on. Try removing some of (Corydoras panda, Mikrogeophagus ramirezi, Pterophyllum scalare, Gyrinocheilus aymonieri) or get a larger tank.

Warning: Water temperature requirements are not fully compatible between all selected species.
=> 75.2 - 86F: Cardinal Tetra
=> 66.2 - 82.4F: Panda Cory
=> 78.8 - 86F: German Blue Ram
=> 75.2 - 86F: Angelfish
=> 78.8 - 86F: Golden Ram
=> 71.6 - 77F: Harlequin Rasbora
=> 75.2 - 82.4F: Chinese Algae Eater

Recommended pH range: 6 - 7.
Recommended hardness range: 5 - 12 dH.

You have plenty of aquarium filtration capacity.

Your aquarium filtration capacity for above selected species is 171%.
Recommended water change schedule: 24% per week.
Your aquarium stocking level is 94%.


This is what it says for your desired list (minus the Harleys):

Warning: Chinese Algae Eater is too aggressive to co-exist withCardinal Tetra.
Note: Chinese Algae Eater will become incredibly aggressive and destructive when they become adults.
Warning: Chinese Algae Eater is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 11 inches.
Warning: Congo Tetra will likely to fin nip Angelfish.
Warning: Your selected species may eventually require 174% of your aquarium space. You may need to deal with territorial aggressions later on. Try removing some of (Corydoras panda, Mikrogeophagus ramirezi, Pterophyllum scalare, Gyrinocheilus aymonieri) or get a larger tank.

Recommended temperature range: 78.8 - 80.6 F.
Recommended pH range: 6 - 7.
Recommended hardness range: 5 - 12 dH.

Your aquarium filtration capacity is satisfactory.

Your aquarium filtration capacity for above selected species is 108%.
Recommended water change schedule: 38% per week.
Your aquarium stocking level is 134%.
Your tank is overstocked. Unless you are an experienced aquarist who can meet the maintenance/biological needs of this aquarium, lower stocking levels are recommended.

It is the same with the Eheim 2217, better filtration but the same overstocking %. I have 42 fish in my 75 gal and I am at my limit.

[steeler1]

Sounds like you need to trade in the Chinese Algae Eater, IME once they reach a certain size; they become the terror of the tank as gronlaura researched.

[ChaosWolf]

i already planned on returning the algea Eater i already could tell its going to end up being a problem.Also on the Congo i was told they are very peaceful? if they are nippers i gota look towards something else and it looks like i should not do the Harlequins for some reason the book i have on them says 76-80 on there tempt.Also what are u useing for that info? 0.o

Like i said before i was asking around on forums before settling on this and i was being told that this setup would end up fine (besides for chinese)