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Thread: GBR divorce

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    Ok so here's the rundown:

    We bought a couple GBRs, Some of you may remember. We got them fairly young but they were paired up from the word go. The second day they were cleaning a large flat rock together, both flushed with color, and Spike (the male) would escort Ramona (the female) around the tank chasing off anyone who got anywhere near her. We had THOUGHT we had been really lucky and that they may spawn for the first time any day.

    Well, they never spawned. Which is fine, our PH is prob too high for ram mating anyway. At least they were healthy and happy and all was well in water land. Well over time they both got more and more comfortable, and started venturing out around the tank a little more often, and a little farther each time. Spike wasn't so puffed up and feeling like he had to chase people as often. He still does sometimes but not as much.

    Problem is as of a few days ago we started noticing that they weren't hanging out, like at all. Then we started seeing that whenever Ramona got anywhere near Spike he would chase her off. We thought maybe it was just a lovers tiff at first, but it never stopped. Two or three days now and they aren't getting along at all. I don't understand what happened.

    Is it possible for Rams to "break up" so to speak? Can they just decide after being paired up that they don't like each other? Or is it possible maybe what we were seeing in the beginning wasn't pairing but juveniles hanging out? I really didn't think so because their mating colors seemed to turn on, and I didn't think they would clean a rock together till they were mated, and they were seriously obsessive compulsive about this rock for a good while.

    Any advice would be great. Thx.
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    Yes, it's possible. I had a pair who lived peacefully for a few years. One day, out of blue, Duke killed Daisy. Divorce wasn't good enough for him, he wanted her DEAD. That's a Cichlid for ya!

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    quite a regular thing to happen..

    1 wants to breed, the other isnt the mood for it and gets fed up with being pestered so the daggers come out and the next thing you know its R.I.P to 1 of them.

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    Crap. Ok thanks guys. Sounds about right for these two. Ramona is still pretty young based on her size and her colors aren't near as flushed as his. Plus he is the one out of the two of them that still cleans the rock. I'm assuming she isn't ready yet and he's frustrated.

    You guys think there's any hope if I move her to one of my other communities and let her age for a while, that I could reintroduce them later and things would go well?

    I have plenty of places I could put one of them temporarily between all my tanks. We have just become attached and I don't want to just find one that will mate with him and toss her.
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    You could move her out. Probably for the best until she's a little older.

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    Yeah move her out for a while and give them some space and mauve try r introducing them again in a few months. Better that than risking them batter each other over who didn't clean the dishes and put the rubbish out lol

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    Lol no joke eh?

    Ok thanks everyone. That's what I will do.

    I had a gal at the LFS today tell me it was because they were harem breeders, but that is contrary to what I have always been told. I was under the impression they were one of the few fish to breed faithfully.

    Either way tho, I'll just have to give her some time and hope it works better later. Deff don't want to end up loosing her over a stupid argument.
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    This might sound like a silly question, but what temperature are you keeping them in? A simple little tweak to the temp could trigger them off. For instance, 25.5-29.5C (78-85F) is their prefered range, and if your temp is at, let's say 26C (79F), you could sneak it up a little to 27C (80F). (Providing that temp is ok for your other stock.) I could get my Bolivians to start to spawn, by raising the temp and leaving the water alone for for a week or two, then doing a water change. All that does is better simulate their natural environment - warm water, then the cooler water flowing into their habitat from rainfall.

    Just another idea to keep in mind!
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    Thank you. I'll keep that in mind. The heater is set at ~78-80 but the last week here has been colder than the few months before that, so it may be that it is dropping too low later at night and during the early morn.

    The goal wasn't even to ever breed them. I assumed my PH is way to high to get them to successfully spawn. I just wanted them to get along so they had company.

    When I went in tonight after reading all the responses from you guys his color had faded drastically, and hers had darkened more than I had ever seen it. She was acting all strange hanging out on the top of my sponge prefilter like she was guarding it. Anyway, I don't know what she was doing but I moved her into another tank and within 2 minutes they were both back to normal color.

    I'm gonna let her hang out for a while and then see if absence does indeed make the heart grow fonder.
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    Good luck with it!
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