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03-11-2013, 06:21 AM #451
Some kind of clover... glossostigma? That does require regular lawn mowing and quite a bit of light and some co2. If you can provide it will look lovely!
Just had a look at your tank again... another option is rocks with riccia tied on them, that will certainly do well for you if you can find the time to mow them every 2 weeks or so.
Less maintenance... Downoi aka Pogostemon Helferi. With a bit of patience it can be quite the ground cover and it's relatively low maintenance. Only thing to know is that it's not a fast plant.
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03-11-2013, 09:13 PM #452
Glossostigma was exactly what I was referencing. That and Marsilea drummondii - alternatives to the Dwarf Baby Tears. I think I'll opt for either Glossostigma or Dwarf Baby Tears, though. We'll see how that goes. You never know what it'll look like until you try it.
I also rubbed/scraped off all of the side algae on the tank. Looks much cleaner, but I'd like to do the same with the back. Honestly, I just got sick of looking at it. ;P That test square I made on the right-hand side also wasn't growing any new algae, so I think I've got this figured out. =] I might actually be able to get away without dosing as much ferts - same regimen, but reduce the dosing (until I add the carpeting plants, of course).
That being said, I'm also thinking of adding some kind of moss to the driftwood on the left-hand side AND creating a Christmas Moss background, using plastic mesh in my 20gal Long. =]
Not sure what kind of moss I should use on the driftwood. I'd definitely like something that crawls, and doesn't just grow outward. That's the problem with Christmas Moss.... If you don't spread the moss out on the mesh for the background, you'll have holes all over the place.
03-13-2013, 04:03 AM #453
Good evening my friends!
I finally made a decision at around 4am, when I woke from my slumber from falling asleep on the couch. lol I purchased 4 portions of Christmas Moss, a 26' x 7" roll of plastic gutter guard mesh, 50 1-3/4" suction cups, and I already have black plastic ties to create a 30" x 12" Christmas Moss background (for my 20gal Long). =] I also purchased 4 portions of Glossostigma Elatinoides (potted). I almost opted for the Dwarf Baby Tears, but they're apparently very rare and expensive (at least at this time of the year in the US). Can't wait to get both and start working on my new projects.
As for the 75gal, I mentioned that I scraped off the sides. I couldn't stand the look of the algae (brown or green) anymore. Here's the result:
Looks much cleaner, if you ask me. Next up is the background... just didn't have the tool at the ready for that, so I'm planning to attack that in the next day or so.
Today was my water change day, since I was dosing Melafix in both tanks. Otherwise, yesterday would have been w/c day - this also means that I skipped a fertilizer day.
I haven't really noticed any change in the Gourami, so I stopped dosing yesterday. I dosed one more time in the 20gal yesterday, and accidentally dosed the full amount. My Betta did NOT appreciate that. He started going crazy, as if having been overdosed and struggling to breathe. I immediately did a couple of water changes and things finally returned to normalcy (whew). Thankfully, the Oto with mouth fungus is getting better. His nose/mouth is definitely clearing up, so I'm pleased with that. You can still smell the Melafix in the tank, so it's definitely still in there working its' magic, so I'm hoping tomorrow we'll see a completely healthy Oto. I'm not too keen on dosing again, even half the dose.
It's funny... I'm not sure if they're just more comfortable in the tank or they appreciate the clean glass, but my catfish have been making more regular appearances during the day. I found my new cat hanging out in the Amazon Sword on the left side of the tank today, and I notice it hanging out by the rocks near the driftwood at times, or the other Sword on the other side of the tank. I'm loving the new comfort level, because they're such interesting fish. =]
Ok, so for some reason this pic won't show up... It is there, though...
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03-13-2013, 04:20 AM #454
03-13-2013, 04:46 AM #455
So, I mentioned that I setup a 20gal Long to replace my 10gal. I haven't, however, posted any pics yet. It took me a few hours to go through the motions, but it's finally up and running and not cloudy. ;]
I wanted to try a soil/plant substrate, so I opted for CaribSea's Floramax. It's more akin to gravel, than it is to soil/sand, so it's perfect for keeping plants planted and ideal for creating levels (which is something I wanted to do. I purchased two 12lb bags from Petsmart, which ended up being perfect for a 20gal Long.
After rinsing it a few times, I figured it was pretty much ready to add to the tank. I used a plastic lid from a container to prevent the water from stirring up too much dirt/sediment. Unfortunately, the Floramax could have used another rinsing or two. It was pretty cloudy in there, but overall - it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
As you can see, I sloped the ground up from the left to the right. It's a gradual change, but I think it's enough to give the tank some more depth and character.
Since it was so dirty, I decided to kick into high gear and start running both my AC20 & AC50 on the 20Long to start filtering all of the floaters. After the tank was a bit more clear, I would remove the AC20 and move all of the Biological filtration over to the 50.
So, after adding the substrate, I wanted to move the plants that I already had in the 10gal to the new tank, before adding the fish. Unfortunately, the more work I conducted with the plants, the more difficult it got to see what I was doing in the new tank, due to the kick-up of dirt. I was almost working blind... since I couldn't tell what anything looked like in the tank, while this was happening.
It took about 30-45min until I felt it made sense to add the fish - I had a bubbler going in the 10gal at this time.
After adding the fish, it was around 11pm or so, so I allowed them to sleep it off. ;P
The next day, things certainly cleared up a bit and on day 3, this is what it looks like:
I see at least 4 Amano Shrimp out and about almost all the time. My plants are doing rather well, already - especially the Anacharis. My swords were suffering in the 10gal, so hopefully my dosing and the new substrate will aid in their revival. The one on the right was almost dying. I trimmed off several of the larger leaves and left a few new ones. I placed it behind the new piece of driftwood on the right, and I'm hopeful that I can save it. =] My Betta immediately took to creating bubble nests and the Otos are all over the place.
I plan on adding another 3+ Otos to up their school and I think that'll do it for this tank. Seeing my Betta play nice with snails & shrimp gives me some hope that I might be able to add some RCS to the tank later on. I may play around with that idea later, when I add the Christmas Moss background. =]
03-13-2013, 05:30 AM #456
looks really good Kevin. I'm thinking of redoing my 30 gal with live plants and am looking for the right substrate. You'll have to keep us posted on how you like the Floramax
03-13-2013, 07:08 AM #457
So Kevin it's nice to hear I'm not the only one that stay up and "broods" all night . Whether it's about the game I had to umpire today or redoing the 50 gal in our bedroom. I could not sleep last night. Wish I could have fallen asleep on the couch LOL.Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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03-13-2013, 03:35 PM #458
I MAY have to copy cat your background idea -------- Only I'd use Java Moss as I don't know if I could do Christmas moss.
I excitedly await the results!!!130g: 4 Angelfish, 2 Roseline Sharks, 12 Conga Tetras, 5 Kuhli Loaches, 1 Otocinslus, 1 Corydora
03-14-2013, 03:04 AM #459
Thanks Cindy! I think it's time you jumped into live plants. ;] It's a challenge, but I think it's worth it. I love the look of a planted tank, and once you get algae under wraps, you can really start to appreciate the beauty of having live plants vs fake.
I'm getting really happy with the way my 75gal is starting to look. I've never had more green looking plants, and the Amazon Swords have gotten huge. Even my Ludwigia repens are making a comeback and without algae this time. ;] Once I clean the background, I think I'll be very pleased... I'm hopeful that the Glossostigma grows well in there and my SAEs and Raph cats don't feel like eating them or knocking them out of the substrate. =X I'm pretty sure my Raphs are knocking my Water Sprite out of the substrate every now and then. I've seen how rough they can be...
@Steeler - I'm definitely a night owl... I used to stay up until 2-3am until my daughter was born. Now I continue to fall asleep on the couch and find myself waking up at around 3-4am w/ my dog lounging on me. lol
@Mandy, feel free! I stole the idea from someone else. ;P I was actually looking at Java Moss, Flame Moss & Christmas Moss. I was going to go for the Flame Moss, but it's impossible to find... So, I opted for the Christmas Moss. I'm hoping I bought enough for a 30 x 12" background. If not, I may have to grow it out in another tank.
I'll be sure to document my build of the background, so you have an idea of what can be done. There are different methods out there - I think I took the more affordable route. They have kits out there, too... but they're usually for nano or 10gal tanks.
03-14-2013, 05:43 AM #460
your tanks look very elegant and sharp man. Good job. Tip for your future tank set ups, plant the tank without filling the tank, then cover the plants and substrate with paper towels, proceed to fill it up and you will never have to wait for the cloud to settle again. All you have to wait for are the air bubble to go away but sometimes they look cool anyways.Roll the Dice!