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08-08-2012, 09:52 PM #1
White film during fishless cycle?
I'm not sure where to post this, so since I don't have fish yet and I'm currently undertaking a fishless cycle, using ammonia, I figured I should post it here.
After coming home, I looked in my 75gal tank and found this white, fine film, in addition to what looks like hair sitting on the top of my sand substrate. I do have plants and I just inserted some Seachem Flourish tabs around the tank, per instructions (about 3-4" apart, around the roots of the plants) the other day. I'm thinking this may be the culprit, since this is the first I've seen it.
Of course I don't know what's causing this, so I'm grasping for answers. The white film almost looks like it's a living organism, like a plant or moss... It moves around with the water, like a plant would. I'm tempted to syphon it out of there, because maybe it could be harmful to potential fish and/or the cycle.
Any ideas on what this could be and what I should do about it?Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
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08-08-2012, 10:02 PM #2
Whats the circulation like in your tank?
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08-08-2012, 10:15 PM #3
I've got a KORALIA EVOLUTION 750 (750gph which can't be adjusted) pushing water as it comes out of my CASCADE 1000 CANISTER FILTER (265gph, though I just reduced it for cycle purposes, by tightening the water flow valves).
Originally Posted by tomtgael
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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08-08-2012, 10:29 PM #4
Did you rinse the sand before putting it in the tank? Sounds like a dense dirty cloud of water.
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08-08-2012, 10:31 PM #5
Here are some reference photos:
White Film 1:
White Film 2:
Hair 1:
Hair 2:
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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08-08-2012, 10:39 PM #6
Looks like its something that has hitchhiked on your plants or sand. I would just siphon it out and continue. Probably nothing to worry about. Although the hairs remind me of a microorganism I've seen somewhere... wasn't exactly good in that case... but since you're still cycling, just rip it all out...
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08-08-2012, 11:25 PM #7
Yep, rinsed it pretty good. The water's been clear after the first couple of days, due to some of the dirt that still remained after rinsing. So I got snails & some weird fungus type thing that hitched a ride on some plants? lol Awesome. ;P
Originally Posted by homemadepopcorn
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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08-08-2012, 11:26 PM #8
They don't float around in the water, though. They're only in the substrate. It's really weird...
Originally Posted by homemadepopcorn
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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08-08-2012, 11:44 PM #9
I just checked my Ammonia & Nitrites... and I'm actually showing Nitrites now. Only been a minute and I'm at .5ppm.
I wonder if these things are the result of a bacterial bloom?
After 5min:
Ammonia = 2ppm
Nitrites = 2-5ppm (colors are very similar)Last edited by KevinVA; 08-08-2012 at 11:52 PM.
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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08-09-2012, 12:31 AM #10
Big difference between 2 and 5. Two is like a light lilac and 5 is a deep purple.
My tank got a bit of slime on the glass when I was cycling, too. It might have been the aloe or stress coat in my water conditioner, too. I just wiped it off with a paper towel.Cycling With Fish?•• The Fishless Cycle••
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