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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
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    I'm not sure where to post this, so since I don't have fish yet and I'm currently undertaking a fishless cycle, using ammonia, I figured I should post it here.

    After coming home, I looked in my 75gal tank and found this white, fine film, in addition to what looks like hair sitting on the top of my sand substrate. I do have plants and I just inserted some Seachem Flourish tabs around the tank, per instructions (about 3-4" apart, around the roots of the plants) the other day. I'm thinking this may be the culprit, since this is the first I've seen it.

    Of course I don't know what's causing this, so I'm grasping for answers. The white film almost looks like it's a living organism, like a plant or moss... It moves around with the water, like a plant would. I'm tempted to syphon it out of there, because maybe it could be harmful to potential fish and/or the cycle.

    Any ideas on what this could be and what I should do about it?
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
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    Whats the circulation like in your tank?

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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
    just because - talldutchie One for your dusty library to - steeler1 For the new baby, wish it were a real bottle! - steeler1 congratulations on the beautiful baby boy - fishmommie I can't rep you again but want to say Yup to this ,http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=112196&p=1153338#post1153338 cleaning tanks and filters once a week still leaves 6 days and 23 hours to relax and enjoy their be - Honey Badger 1 
    For your loss, bummer man. - steeler1 Thanks for the help - Cliff cheers man! It's Friday! - mojosodope Drink with the crew? - Sandz Its almost Friday again! Lets grill some and drink a few! - Sandz 
    Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - KevinVA World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - KevinVA Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - KevinVA 

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomtgael
    Whats the circulation like in your tank?
    I've got a KORALIA EVOLUTION 750 (750gph which can't be adjusted) pushing water as it comes out of my CASCADE 1000 CANISTER FILTER (265gph, though I just reduced it for cycle purposes, by tightening the water flow valves).
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
    My 75 Gal Journal
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    Did you rinse the sand before putting it in the tank? Sounds like a dense dirty cloud of water.

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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
    just because - talldutchie One for your dusty library to - steeler1 For the new baby, wish it were a real bottle! - steeler1 congratulations on the beautiful baby boy - fishmommie I can't rep you again but want to say Yup to this ,http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=112196&p=1153338#post1153338 cleaning tanks and filters once a week still leaves 6 days and 23 hours to relax and enjoy their be - Honey Badger 1 
    For your loss, bummer man. - steeler1 Thanks for the help - Cliff cheers man! It's Friday! - mojosodope Drink with the crew? - Sandz Its almost Friday again! Lets grill some and drink a few! - Sandz 
    Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - KevinVA World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - KevinVA Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - KevinVA 

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    Here are some reference photos:

    White Film 1:
    White Film 2:
    Hair 1:
    Hair 2:
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
    My 75 Gal Journal
    My Snail Breeding Journal

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    Looks like its something that has hitchhiked on your plants or sand. I would just siphon it out and continue. Probably nothing to worry about. Although the hairs remind me of a microorganism I've seen somewhere... wasn't exactly good in that case... but since you're still cycling, just rip it all out...

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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
    just because - talldutchie One for your dusty library to - steeler1 For the new baby, wish it were a real bottle! - steeler1 congratulations on the beautiful baby boy - fishmommie I can't rep you again but want to say Yup to this ,http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=112196&p=1153338#post1153338 cleaning tanks and filters once a week still leaves 6 days and 23 hours to relax and enjoy their be - Honey Badger 1 
    For your loss, bummer man. - steeler1 Thanks for the help - Cliff cheers man! It's Friday! - mojosodope Drink with the crew? - Sandz Its almost Friday again! Lets grill some and drink a few! - Sandz 
    Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - KevinVA World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - KevinVA Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - KevinVA 

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    Quote Originally Posted by homemadepopcorn
    Did you rinse the sand before putting it in the tank? Sounds like a dense dirty cloud of water.
    Yep, rinsed it pretty good. The water's been clear after the first couple of days, due to some of the dirt that still remained after rinsing. So I got snails & some weird fungus type thing that hitched a ride on some plants? lol Awesome. ;P
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
    My 75 Gal Journal
    My Snail Breeding Journal

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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
    just because - talldutchie One for your dusty library to - steeler1 For the new baby, wish it were a real bottle! - steeler1 congratulations on the beautiful baby boy - fishmommie I can't rep you again but want to say Yup to this ,http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=112196&p=1153338#post1153338 cleaning tanks and filters once a week still leaves 6 days and 23 hours to relax and enjoy their be - Honey Badger 1 
    For your loss, bummer man. - steeler1 Thanks for the help - Cliff cheers man! It's Friday! - mojosodope Drink with the crew? - Sandz Its almost Friday again! Lets grill some and drink a few! - Sandz 
    Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - KevinVA World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - KevinVA Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - KevinVA 

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    Quote Originally Posted by homemadepopcorn
    Looks like its something that has hitchhiked on your plants or sand. I would just siphon it out and continue. Probably nothing to worry about. Although the hairs remind me of a microorganism I've seen somewhere... wasn't exactly good in that case... but since you're still cycling, just rip it all out...
    They don't float around in the water, though. They're only in the substrate. It's really weird...
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
    My 75 Gal Journal
    My Snail Breeding Journal

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    Thanks for the Rep points. - steeler1 For being helpful - and you own bluerams - ddavis1979 Merry Christmas! - fishmommie Merry Christmas KevinVA - jeffs99dime sorry for your loss. - Gogi 
    She SO is a bro :-P - 850R I am not! I checked. - mommy1 as close as I could come to a rabbit snail :o) - fishmommie No Cardinal Tetra so have a Neon for all your time and effort - steeler1 For those of us who have known the love of an Oto. - MandyK 
    just because - talldutchie One for your dusty library to - steeler1 For the new baby, wish it were a real bottle! - steeler1 congratulations on the beautiful baby boy - fishmommie I can't rep you again but want to say Yup to this ,http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=112196&p=1153338#post1153338 cleaning tanks and filters once a week still leaves 6 days and 23 hours to relax and enjoy their be - Honey Badger 1 
    For your loss, bummer man. - steeler1 Thanks for the help - Cliff cheers man! It's Friday! - mojosodope Drink with the crew? - Sandz Its almost Friday again! Lets grill some and drink a few! - Sandz 
    Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - KevinVA World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - KevinVA Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - KevinVA 

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    I just checked my Ammonia & Nitrites... and I'm actually showing Nitrites now. Only been a minute and I'm at .5ppm.

    I wonder if these things are the result of a bacterial bloom?

    After 5min:

    Ammonia = 2ppm
    Nitrites = 2-5ppm (colors are very similar)
    Last edited by KevinVA; 08-08-2012 at 11:52 PM.
    Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 3 Orange Rabbit Snail + 4 Amano Shrimp
    Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 18 Black Ruby Barbs + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
    Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
    Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
    My 75 Gal Journal
    My Snail Breeding Journal

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    Big difference between 2 and 5. Two is like a light lilac and 5 is a deep purple.

    My tank got a bit of slime on the glass when I was cycling, too. It might have been the aloe or stress coat in my water conditioner, too. I just wiped it off with a paper towel.
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