need help with Mystery disease on Oranda.

[TerrorTrooper]

Hello all.

I am hoping to pick your brains and draw help from your wealth of knowledge.

My name is Iain, My better half has 2 tanks.
Both 48 Litres with air pumps and Fluval U1 filters

One has 3 common goldfish and 2 longestiens. and is a year old.
We are having no problems with this one thankfully.

The second however one is about 6 months old, had 2 small orandas.
This is the problem tank.
15 days ago we bought another 2 small orandas and 4 apple snails and added them to this aquarium. (put 2 of the apple snails in the other goldfish aquarium) tested the water for Amonia, Nitrites and Nitrates on the same day, Water quality was excelant.

Within a week, the new fish seemed to break out in what we suspected was whitespot. (Ick) So we treated the water with whitespot treatment last sunday.
One of the new fish died on the monday and was partially eaten by the apple snails by the time we noticed.
the second new fish died on tuesday and again was eaten by the apple snails. we treated the water with a second dose of whitespot treatment. By this point our origional 2 Orandas were looking quite ill. and the suspected whitespot appears to be getting worse.
By thursday, one of our origional orandas was very ill and the whitespot seems to be still getting worse. This fish died later the same day when we were performing a partial water change.

As the whitespot treatment is having no effect, in a desperate attempt to save our last oranda we moved it into a small 22 Litre quarintine tank with an interpet PF1 filter and put the 2 apple snails in a fish bowl.

After reading up on Ick and its lifecycle, we did an 80% water change on the now - empty tank and hoovered it, and have stuck 2 tropical fish heaters in the tank, and plan to leave it there for 10 days at 80 degrees Fahrenheit in an effort to get any remaining ick parasites to live out their lifecycle. We have also treated the Quarintine tank with 4 tablespoons of Salt in an effort to kill the Parasites on the fish as well as treating with yet more anti-white spot treatment. Our remaining Oranda is in pretty poor shape.
Its also worth noting, the apple snails dont look to healthy and just float around the bowl, one has a strange, cotton-wool like substance hanging from it.
The 2 apple snails in the goldfish tank are fine however.

Is this in fact Ick/Whitespot?? Or have we completely mis-diagnosed it?

Hes such a friendly little fish, and we would like to save him.
Any advice on what else we can do if it is Ick?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[TerrorTrooper]

[TerrorTrooper]

Hmm...

Well unfortunately, Popeye lost his battle with this mystery infection this morning.

Im guessing this is a dead forum, as im sure i included enough info for at least someone with a bit more knowledge than me to throw me a bone or two in 3 days, but oh well..

[Zander]

Sorry no one responded to you sooner. Usually you will get a response within 4 or 5 hours at the most.

Looks like Ich to me. And it sounds like you did what you were supposed to do. The only thing I would suggest, that you haven't done, is to add some aquarium salt.

[imma24]

Your other problem is having goldfish in tiny tanks and I'm asking if you test your water parameters? Do you have a way to test for ammonia, nitrites or nitrates? Have you changed your water since you got them? That's very important - along with making sure that goldfish are in a proper sized tank - depending up on the goldfish, they eventually grow to a minimum of 6 inches.