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Thread: Not Convinced
06-13-2012, 03:21 AM #1
The Cory who plays dead still does. Sometimes he seems to think he's an upside-down catfish as he swims upside-down at the surface. I noticed today that he has an extremely sunken belly. I'm definitely not underfeeding. One of the tetras has a brown spot just above it's anal fin. Another tetra swims on it's side and bumps into things occasionally but won't die. Still need to do a water test but I'm not convinced water is the big problem. I keep the water clean and do weekly WCs (except last week). Water tests haven't been bad in years in any of my tanks. Pleco is a bully maybe? His fins are untouched and he looks healthy. The tank is in a very sunny room and gets a fair amount of algae that I do my best to get rid of. Thoughts? I don't want to add more tetras and cories if they'll just get picked on.
06-13-2012, 03:31 AM #2
0Originally Posted by Pleco380
A. Test the water. You being convinced or not has no bearing on the results of the test. 'Knowing' is good, Know what I mean.?
B. Do you have a QT tank? If so - I'd be using it already to make sure the cory is eating or conversely for the tetras. [Whichever was noticed first]Gas mileage isn't everything OIIIIIIIO
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06-13-2012, 04:07 AM #3
Okay, I'll get a water test ASAP. No I don't have a QT tank. I have a small breeding trap that can hang on the side of the tank but I'm not sure if that'll help.
06-13-2012, 11:42 AM #4
850R is absolutely correct.
Case in point: My nitrates are always very low. Yesterday I noticed some diatoms on my anubias in my bare-bottom cichlid tank. I run for my nitrate test and......my nitrates had skyrocked to 40. I knew as soon as I saw those diatoms that something had gone astray with those nitrates.
New pipes are being installed in my apartment building so my water change has been increased from 7 days to 10. Another trigger was running out of Hikari sinking pellets so I've been feeding my fish Kens beef flake food.
I never would have know my nitrate had spiked by simply looking at the water. It was only those diatoms that sent up an alarm. Had I tested 4 days ago, I wouldn't have had to remove everything from the tank, do a 75% water change, bleach all the plants to get rid of the diatoms and mess around for an hour.
But dying or ill fish should be your trigger to test immediately. If you have a fish on the way out, get him out of the tank and put him down. Don't wait for him to die in the tank and others to eat him.
06-13-2012, 12:28 PM #5
Stable tanks can shift their parameters without warning, and very suddenly. Fish illness should always be a red flag that something is awry. Even a regular master test kit can't tell you everything about a tank's water condition, such as dissolved solids or metals that may have been introduced from a change in the public water supply. (Copper comes to mind).
All of my tanks have had a major pH crash, due to my public water supply, leading to a host of illnesses and mysterious deaths in the past. Out of five tanks, all but two were saved from absolute disaster by very regular water testing to catch it before it happened to them.
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06-15-2012, 01:41 AM #6
Nitrites, Ammonia are both 0. Nitrates arejust under 5. PH is 7.2. Should I add salt as a precaution to infection from the fish wounds? No fungus or anything so far. Here's what the options seem to be:
1. Continue with current stocking and replace fish that died. I don't think this is right though because something is obviously wrong.
2. Try getting fish that can fend for themselves better such as Odessa or Tiger Barbs.
3. Get a baby fish that has the potential to get big. Raise it or them until they get to be too big for the tank and then sell them. Just throwing out ideas.
The pleco is my favorite so he's not leaving even though he's likely the aggressive fish. That still leaves a problem though. Should I get bottom feeders to replace the cories? I'm confused and need help with stocking so everyone gets along. Thanks.
The count of BPT's is down to 3. Cories is down to 3 too.
06-15-2012, 02:43 AM #7
I think before you get or add any other fish you should identify the problem.~Manna
120 gallon FW bowfront in progress
06-15-2012, 02:45 AM #8
Good point. I believe it could be no other than the pleco though.
06-15-2012, 05:01 AM #9
I've done a bit of research. If it were down to just the pleco and shrimp, would Odessa or Tiger Barbs work? Say a shoal of 10?