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10-28-2012, 05:57 PM #261
Hrmmmmm... It's starting to look like an ulcer.
I've been trying to find a treatment for that, but people usually don't have any solutions. Looks like topical treatments are best for ulcers. Debride is suggested for Koi/Goldfish... but I'm not sure what to use for other freshwater tropical fish.Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 2 Orange Rabbit Snail + 5 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 1 Black Phantom + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
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10-28-2012, 06:23 PM #262
I've been looking around as well, and all the instances like this seem to end in death no matter what the treatment.....
If this doesn't start to improve soon I may have to put him down.130g: 7 Angelfish, 1 Bolivian, 17 Neon Tetras, 14 Serpae Tetras, 9 Kuhli Loaches, 1 Otocinslus, ? Ghost Shrimp
I've noticed that people HATE it when you point out how stupid they are, so now I try to do it politely.
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10-28-2012, 07:13 PM #263
so sorry he hasn't improved, Mandy. Since it's growing, I think we can safely assume it's not bullying. I hope you come up for a solution for him. Is he eating?
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5.5 gal FW: crown tail betta
90 gal FW: Blood Parrots, severums, Jurupari, EBJD, congo tetras, angel, dw gourami, mystery snails
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10-28-2012, 07:48 PM #264
Yes, he is eating and swimming normally. I'm thinking this may have been why he went into hiding.
Either he went into hiding because he was sick OR he got the ulcer because he was stressed and hiding.130g: 7 Angelfish, 1 Bolivian, 17 Neon Tetras, 14 Serpae Tetras, 9 Kuhli Loaches, 1 Otocinslus, ? Ghost Shrimp
I've noticed that people HATE it when you point out how stupid they are, so now I try to do it politely.
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10-28-2012, 07:53 PM #265
Somebody on here gave me some advice about treating scale/body injuries with hydrogen peroxide. That's a debriding agent you probably already have. Let me find it and I'll edit this...
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This is from Indian Woods Angels:
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Much like a human open wound, the wounds on a fish can be treated using a mild bath of hydrogen peroxide as a body dip. I put 10 drops of HP into a 2.5 gallon aquarium and place the fish in there for 30 minutes. The tank is totally clean and empty. To up the dose increase per proportion.
Reaction time and recognition of a problem always helps towards a successful recovery.
For open sores and wounds I remove the fish and swab the area directly with a Q Tip with either a 50% solution of HP diluted with distilled water or a 100% solution, go with the scales and try to only administer the HP to the open wound. You can often also do a bath after this treatment. In conjunction with a bacterial population knock down within a QT or hospital tank these methods work fairly well.
*end of quote*
IDK if that will help you, but it is another idea. Good luck to you and the little fish.Last edited by bethyMT; 10-28-2012 at 07:57 PM.
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My advice: slow down, think, and be willing to learn. Then you'll be fine, no matter what.
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10-28-2012, 08:04 PM #266
Thanks bethy! I will try that!
On another note I just pulled the last two neons from the tank. 100% die off of the new batch. How disappointing.
EDIT: After HP swabbing Gourami is a bit freaked out. He is def losing energy. There was no flopping or anything when I pulled him from the tank. Not much bubbling from the wound, but hopefully it helps.Last edited by MandyK; 10-28-2012 at 08:08 PM.
130g: 7 Angelfish, 1 Bolivian, 17 Neon Tetras, 14 Serpae Tetras, 9 Kuhli Loaches, 1 Otocinslus, ? Ghost Shrimp
I've noticed that people HATE it when you point out how stupid they are, so now I try to do it politely.
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10-29-2012, 12:13 AM #267
+1 to HP. I just read something similar. I also saw something about a neosporin. I would listen to Indian Woods Angel, though... he's one of the smartest fish keepers on here, if you ask me.
Btw, stress is said to cause ulcers in fish (just as it would in humans, though internally). So, he could definitely have been stressed about something.Last edited by KevinVA; 10-29-2012 at 12:16 AM.
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 2 Orange Rabbit Snail + 5 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 1 Black Phantom + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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10-29-2012, 05:57 PM #268
Yes, I will. I'll d othat everyday to see if I can get some sort of reaction from him.
I pulled another neon from the 55g today, and that neon HAD to be from MY original batch.... Doing a W/C now. I don't know what else it could be, or to do. None of my other fish seem affected at all, including the bottom dwellers.
ARG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!130g: 7 Angelfish, 1 Bolivian, 17 Neon Tetras, 14 Serpae Tetras, 9 Kuhli Loaches, 1 Otocinslus, ? Ghost Shrimp
I've noticed that people HATE it when you point out how stupid they are, so now I try to do it politely.
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10-29-2012, 09:45 PM #269
Yeesh! I'm sorry again, Mandy. =/ I wonder if some fish, like Neons, are like birds (like Parakeets). When a cage mate dies (friend or mate), they'll become so stressed/depressed that they sometimes die.
Originally Posted by MandyK
Tank 1: 20gal Long Planted Freshwater - 1 Crowntail Betta + 8 Oto Cats + 1 Horned Nerite Snail + 2 Orange Rabbit Snail + 5 Amano Shrimp
Tank 2: 75gal Planted Freshwater - 6 Serpaes + 1 Black Phantom + 3 Golden Wonder Killies + 1 Opaline Gourami + 2 Striped Raphael Cat + 4 SAEs + 5 Assassin Snails
Tank 3: 10gal Planted Brackish Water - 4 Nerite Snails
Tank 4: 10gal Planted Freshwater - 5 Rabbit Snails + RCS
My 75 Gal Journal
My Snail Breeding Journal
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10-31-2012, 04:35 PM #270
Lost another Neon today... I'm down to 22 now.
Gourami is still holding. No improvement and no decline which I guess is good. I'm treating daily with peroxide.
Happy Halloween everyone!130g: 7 Angelfish, 1 Bolivian, 17 Neon Tetras, 14 Serpae Tetras, 9 Kuhli Loaches, 1 Otocinslus, ? Ghost Shrimp
I've noticed that people HATE it when you point out how stupid they are, so now I try to do it politely.





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