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Thread: Possible substrate problem
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04-21-2012, 01:18 PM #1
Possible substrate problem
This is from my 29 gallon with firemouths:
From a different thread I started
Originally Posted by MLBfan
Ok, now I fear I may have a bit of a fiasco on my hands.
Originally Posted by Dave66
So, the substrate is a marine substrate I know, but it says it is also for African cichlids (the tank was originally going to be a Tanganyika setup, but I changed my mind), so with that I got my water tested originally at 7.8 pH and decided that it would be fine given that the fish are not from the wild and the tank are hardy, I drip acclimated these guys: Params went:
pH-7.8 GH-11 KH-6 on 04-05-2012
pH -7.4 (suspect that addition of a little driftwood did this) GH-6 KH-4 on 04-09-2012
pH- 7.8 GH- 11 KH- 6 on 04-12-2012 (A fish died a day after that)
ph- 8.2 GH 13 KH 7 on 4-13-2012
pH -8.0 GH-18 KH-9 on 04-16-2012 (Fish died on that day)
ammonia, trites and trates remained 0/0/<25 through the entire time
Some human error while testing could have messed up the results a tiny bit, but now I'm wondering if the substrate did this, I haven't done any water changes yet because the params remained good and I didn't want to upset them because they were already super freaked out. However I did add some water in to fill it to the water line. Anyway, should I change substrates? If so, how do I do that and keep my fish alive and well?American League Champions!
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04-21-2012, 02:30 PM #2
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04-21-2012, 04:05 PM #3
My guess would be the sand. It is meant to buffer the water and keep it on the high side of pH for africans.
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04-21-2012, 04:47 PM #4
So should I change substrates?
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04-21-2012, 04:48 PM #5
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04-21-2012, 04:53 PM #6
Ok, so how can I change it without disturbing my fish by getting a big drop in hardness or pH?
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04-21-2012, 04:54 PM #7
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04-21-2012, 08:15 PM #8
I'm new to this but could you suck the sand out with a syphon and add cleaned gravel by handfulls ?
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04-21-2012, 10:53 PM #9
I think I'll siphon the sand out , do daily 10% WCs, and later in the week put some gravel in.
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04-23-2012, 11:21 AM #10
Actually, is there another way to remove the sand? I'm afraid doing this will also remove a lot of water which I will replace and the pH and hardness will be all over.
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