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  1. Default moving a betta from a small tank (no filter) to filtered tank


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    Thanks to PJ who addressed a question about stocking a 30 gal for me on another thread I now realize I do not have adequate quarters for a lone Betta.
    He's been in a 1/2 gal bowl since I bought him a few months ago, no heater, no filter, just distilled water that I change 2 times a week. i know now that that is horrible.
    Ignorance is no excuse but that's all I have to plead. Did not find this forum until I'd already made my mistake - listened to the people at PETCO. Again, that was MY mistake. Should not have expected them to know.

    So I want to fix it. I just read the article on Betta care I found on this site. Off to buy the poor guy a 5 gal tank very soon.
    Questions:
    Betta's do not require that I cycle the tank, correct? Just condition the water?
    And can anyone tell me the best way to get him acclimated since right now his bowl isn't heated. I realize that his conditions now are too cold at around 70 - 72 F and that I need to up that to 78 - 82 F when he gets his new tank. Do I start him in the cooler water and gradually - say over a few days, increase the temp?

    Also, with one lone betta, will the tank cycle?

    If not, could I use media from my 30 gal to cycle it? Like gravel from the bottom or some media I could seed in my 30 gal filter?

    I'd like to add a few other things to the tank as long as I'm setting it up.
    What would be good choices to add to the five gallon tank with the betta? Would a miniature jumping frog work? Maybe 5 cardinal Tetras?

    thanks so much for any suggestions.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: EBJD, congos, apple snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie
    Betta's do not require that I cycle the tank, correct? Just condition the water?
    being in a cycling tank is hard on any fish. However, he will still be better off in a cycling 5 gallon than in an unfiltered bowl. Just keep doing water changes to keep the ammonia and nitrite down.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie
    And can anyone tell me the best way to get him acclimated since right now his bowl isn't heated. Do I start him in the cooler water and gradually - say over a few days, increase the temp?
    yup.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie
    Also, with one lone betta, will the tank cycle?
    yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie
    If not, could I use media from my 30 gal to cycle it? Like gravel from the bottom or some media I could seed in my 30 gal filter?
    If you can move media from an established filter over, by all means do. This will cycle the tank almost instantly and save your fish the pain of a normal cycle. Gravel is hit or miss... filter media is much more likely to work, since it contains much more of the bacteria.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie
    What would be good choices to add to the five gallon tank with the betta? Would a miniature jumping frog work? Maybe 5 cardinal Tetras?
    I like keeping snails, like apple or nerite, with bettas. They don't have much bioload and they can usually withstand the occasional betta aggression.
    300 gallon mega tank: build in progress
    75 gallon community tank: tetras, danios, corys, platies, otos, pearl gouramis, bristlenose pleco, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    70 gallon growout tank: clown loaches, sailfin pleco
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish
    29 gallon frog tank: 1 bullfrog
    10 gallon and 5.5 gallon betta tanks: 1 male betta each, sometimes snails

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brhino
    I like keeping snails, like apple or nerite, with bettas. They don't have much bioload and they can usually withstand the occasional betta aggression.
    Thanks Brhino
    Snails, huh? I'll have to read up on them as I have had the perception that they are pests and multiply and can take over a tank. Apparently not necessarily :o)_

    I was, however, hoping for something with more movement. Is there no fish that could live comfortably with a Betta? And what about a dwarf African jumping frog? Would the betta pick on it?

    Thanks again. Really appreciate it
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: EBJD, congos, apple snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie
    Snails, huh? I'll have to read up on them as I have had the perception that they are pests and multiply and can take over a tank. Apparently not necessarily :o)_
    Yep, it all depends on the type of snail
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    PS
    What about Platys? would they work well with the Betta? I have 3 - 1 male and 2 female in my 30 gal community tank now. They and the betta that's currently in the 30 gal with 3 dwarf gourmais basically ignore each other.

    So would they be a good choice for the 5 gal?
    that would make 1 betta, 3 platy and maybe a snail or two?
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: EBJD, congos, apple snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    To match your Super speed LOL - 850R Cool contest! - Wild Turkey Great shrimp advice - Wild Turkey You have the patience of a rock - Aeonflame Happy 5th Anniversary - Aminax 
    Thanks! - Scrup hmm i dont this its the right species... but merry xmas XD - genocidex Merry Christmas! I blub you! - Aminax I love following your informative and well designed threads. I hope these loaches get huge for you! - Sandz Happy 30th birthday! - Aminax 
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    a 5 gallon tank is too small for platies, and probably the cardinal tetras too. A lot of people keep dwarf african frogs (never heard it referred to with the word "jumping" in there but I assume we're talking about the same thing) with bettas and it seems to work out well enough as best as I can recall.
    300 gallon mega tank: build in progress
    75 gallon community tank: tetras, danios, corys, platies, otos, pearl gouramis, bristlenose pleco, assassin snails, red cherry shrimp, bamboo shrimp
    70 gallon growout tank: clown loaches, sailfin pleco
    60 gallon goldfish tank: fancy goldfish
    29 gallon frog tank: 1 bullfrog
    10 gallon and 5.5 gallon betta tanks: 1 male betta each, sometimes snails

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    Just a betta would be best, maybe a ADF or two depending on the temperament (or snails), but other than that just the betta. Also with ADFs they can be hard to feed.

    Edit: looks like brhino stole what I was gonna say
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    I'm the one who said jumping. Sorry - got caught up in a visual. LOL
    thanks again for the advice everyone.
    I'll give the ADFs a try - such cute little buggers.
    Oh - and about those snails - the apple or nerite. Are they at all active?
    And if I have the betta and 2 ADF is it still okay to have a snail or two?
    again - much appreciated.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: EBJD, congos, apple snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    As others have said, a 5g tank is too small for more than just a betta. If you do want a betta and another species, get a 10 gallon. :) They're probably not that much more than a 5g.

    Make sure you have a heater and a filter with an adjustable flow (I like Duetto50 for 5g, Duetto100 for 10g). Decorate with low light live plants (vals, crypts, anubias, java fern, java moss) and driftwood. Don't boil it first: the betta will appreciate the tannins staining the water a bit darker.

    Nerite snails are fantastic algae eaters and cannot reproduce in freshwater. The zebra/tiger variety is quite attractive. They certainly aren't speed demons, but do get around the tank and do a nice job cleaning it.
    "The Dumpster Tank" 26g flat back hex - Betta albimarginata, corydoras, checker barbs, pork chop rasbora

    "Nano Fish Tank" 20g long - Celestial Pearl Danios, microrasboras, Corydoras habrosus

    "Mbuna Tank" 75g - Ps. saulosi, I. sprengerae, M. pulpican, M. joanjohnsonae

    "Time Out Tank" 29g - dominant male Cynotilapia sp. "hara"

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    thanks for the advice!
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, pair kribs, & nerite snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: EBJD, congos, apple snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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