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Thread: Overpopullating

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    currently have a 55 gallon tropical community tank. Just started the community tank, but tank has been set up for about 8 months, 2 years before that but a snail infestation made me switch from Africans to South Americans, and then the aggression got old quick so now I'm into community. I've never had a community tank before so any advice anyone can give me would be great. One thing I'm wondering is if I can add anymore fish to my tank. I would like to add a ram or two, about 5 or 6 more neons, and maybe a black sail fin molly. Is this possible? Like I said i've never done community before, but I figured since most of the fish I have/want do not exceed 2-4 inches I could have more. I'm Filtering 700 gph. with two over the back Aquaclear 110, and an Aquaclear 50. Thinking about adding an internal powerhead as well. I want as much action in my tank as possible, but i don't want to overcrowd it.

    Here is my current lineup

    Neon tetrax5
    red wag platyx3
    sunburst platyx3
    blue platy
    dwarf flame gourami
    dwarf powder blue gourami
    creamsicle lyretail molly
    balloon belly molly
    long fin rosy barb
    clown loachx2
    yoyo loach
    tiger botia
    chinese algae eater

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    I'm not sure about the stocking, but I DO know that neons love to be kept in atleast schools of six, preferably more.

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    About 5 to 6 more neons or cardinals(i've heard they can school together) is one of the additions I am wanting to make, that and possible a blue ram.

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    clown loachs will get too big, more than one gourami shouldnt be kept in the same tank. all barbs need schools (6 or more), loaches like groups of at least 3, CAE get quite aggressive when they mature

    besides the neons needing more thats what i can figure is wrong.

    i would loose the clown loachs and tiger botia and pick up 3 more yoyos. loose the barb and get another molly, and you can try the gourami just be warry of aggression later. cae could be replaced by some snails, or otos, im guessing you got the cae for algae. just remember to supplement with veggies when algae isnt abundant.
    I wonder if i plant one of my tiger barbs would the demon seed grow to a full tree?
    gotta love them bunnies!
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    Honestly, i'm not remotley the most knowledgeable person on this forum. I recommend you wait for someone that is very knowledgeable until you end up with an answer.

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    Clown loachs get big and need to be kept in atleast groups of 6 as far as I have read.

    Sorry for reposting info others had. (those posts weren't up when I hit the post button lol)

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    If it was me, I'd do a medium school of tetras (30-40) or a larger school of 60-70 neon tetras, and something for the bottom, probably a large amount of shrimp or something of the like.

    That's just me, and what I plan to do when the wife folds on the thought of a 75 gal aquarium. I enjoy the small school I have, but I believe it'd be much more enjoyable to watch one giant school, as we as caring for them and watching them in a more natural interaction with themselves, instead of having several smaller schools vying for territory.

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    must admit I still love watching my school of 30 wild green neons darting back and forth!
    Used to try and keep track of my fish here.....

    Ran out of room and time!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jriley1013

    Neon tetrax5 works
    red wag platyx3 works
    sunburst platyx3 works
    blue platy works
    dwarf flame gourami they dont always mix with other gouramis
    dwarf powder blue gourami they dont always mix with other gouramis
    creamsicle lyretail molly works
    balloon belly molly works
    long fin rosy barb may nip gouramis or other long finned fish(lyretail), and can stress out slower fish (gourami), but they will give you plenty of action
    clown loachx2 see other posts. at least 12" full grown and will pester and nip other fish if you don't get a proper school, and even then might nip
    yoyo loach should be ok, suggest a group of at least 6 to keep them from bugging others, but might be ok with just a few. Have seen them sucessfully raised solo
    tiger botia aggressive and 10" long. will probably tear up long finned fish, and wont mix with clowns or yoyo's
    chinese algae eater No way. go with bristlenose in a 55g. Or oto's.

    Answers are above.

    Neons might also end up as a snack for the loaches depending on how large they get, and the lyretail may get nipped at. My clowns seemed to ignore the smaller fish, but you never know.

    Gouramis may fight each other. Similar to bettas, it depends on temperament. Keep an eye on them and be ready to remove one if they show signs of aggression or stress.

    Expect losses from the livebearers and the neons, both are frequently very frail fish with a frustratingly high mortality rate.

    If you want to get specific, the "Ideal" water parameters for those livebearers and the neons are usually different, but it can work.

    Wow, I sound like a negative nancy now...

    And this is just my thoughts on the matter, others may disagree.
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    thanks everyone for the info. one clown loach is about 4 inches and the other 3, they will be moved as they get larger. The CAE i've had for a long time and just haven't got around to getting ottos yet. as for snails go, do gold mystery snails repopulate like crazy? because a snail infestation is the reason i had to totally take down my tank when I had africans. As far as the gouramis go, they haven't shown any aggression yet, but i've only had them a few days. All of my loaches and botia (which is really small, the lfs said it was a tiger botia but i'm not sure, i'll post a pic on here and get some foresight) have been together for about a year, so far they haven't shown any aggression towards anything. I've heard the long fin rosy barbs are kind of exceptions to the aggressive fin nipping tendencies of the tiger and cherry barbs, but once again, i'm new to the world of community fish and plan to swap out what is needed when the time comes. Thanks again for the information.

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