Very important(urgent) must know quickly!

[1994pspuser]

Alright so i have a huge question which i hope will spark a debate. So my tank(29 gallons) as been set up for a whole year now and i haven’t lost a single fish...hurray for me:-D and 2 weeks ago i went to the pet store to buy new plants. I originally wanted to buy new plants, a CO2 diffuser and flame tetras because i was looking for a nice colourful schooling fish to go with: 2 angelfish, 2 gold barbs, 1 redtailed black shark, 1 khuli loach, 2 Chinese algae eaters(getting rid of), a fire-mouth cichlid and 3 tiger barbs. But instead i ended up buying 6 glowlight tetras which i love! Anyways, when i was there i happened to see a tank of shrimp and of crayfish. Now most of my fish are big, semi-aggressive and get along great together, being big eaters haha. So, my original plan was to buy shrimp but after seeing their small size and the crayfish I’ve been reconsidering. I was wondering if the cray would be alright in my tank? My aquarium will be decently heavily planted and with the CO2 will hopefully grow like mad. There are many places to hide in but i don’t really want to lose any fish nor want the shrimp to be eaten. Now if neither one really works i suppose the big debate is what cool looking invert can i buy that is not as plain as snails but will survive and be peaceful.





PS: am not looking for stocking suggestions (i.e. OVERSTOCKED!!!!) please refrain....greatly appreaciated.



Thank you marcus :)

[rich311k]

Crayfish will destroy the plants.

[smaug]

and you are stocked totally now.Actually overstocked,I know I couldnt leave it out. You are asking for what else to go in your tank,I simply gave you the reason for my answer...... NOTHING.

[Goes to 11!]

and you are stocked totally now.Actually overstocked,I know I couldnt leave it out. You are asking for what else to go in your tank,I simply gave you the reason for my answer...... NOTHING.

NOTHING = +1

My reason? Wait for it ---> You are overstocked already [It's essentially impossible to refrain lol ]

I have a spawning pair of [3.5"] angels and 3 or 4 corys in my 29g and the argument could be made that I am overstocked.

[Spidyman]

ok first of don't get angry at us for saying it is oversocked, that is the reason we say not to add anything.(like smaug said)
Secondly I would say upgrading is the best option if you want to add any more fish or inverts. Also get rid of that red tail shark if you can they tend to be very territorial and overall not a really good fish to keep.

All that being said.most cichlid species, as in your angels, will most likely see shrimp as food. Crayfish are cool but they are opportunistic and will kill any hurt, tired, or sick fish.

P.S. i mean no disrespect but you did ask for help. also 850r' tank is over stocked but he has also been keeping fish for a long long time and learned to manage aggresion.

[Lady Hobbs]

I have to agree with everyone overstocked opinion. You have enough fish there for a 55 gallon.

[1994pspuser]

I actually got a private messagge from someone who did not want to post their opinion on here in case people started arguing with them but i feel the huge urge to let the regulars know what the beginners think haha so heres what he thought "That actually made me chuckle out loud a bit. I have noticed that most people on here cannot resist the temptation to tell you what is wrong with your tank rather than answer the question at hand.

I am rather new to the hobby, so I have no idea what you could keep. Good luck with the thread!

John

P.S i totally agree!

[smaug]

There is nothing wrong with your tank that less fish wouldn't cure. Don't add any other inhabitants,that was your answer. Trust me on this,the bigger more resounding chuckle is coming from us from your odd last post
From the wording of your first post I wondered before I ever responded whether or not it was more trolling then anything. I also notice your style of posting which has you making a remark then hightailing out for a day or 2. I do not wonder about your experiance

[Brhino]

People here always respond with the best interests of the fish people are keeping in mind. If you are putting fish in a situation where harm is likely to come to them, people will be opposed to that and tell you so. Now, you may get lucky and the situation may be working for you temporarily, but still, people give advice that is designed to give you, and anyone else reading your question, the best chance for successful fishkeeping.

You describe an overstocked tank with compatibility issues, and then ask if you can add more creatures to it to create more of an overstock and more compatibility issues, but tell us not to tell you that your tank is overstocked. Since you told us that it seems likely you knew this to be the case to begin with.

This situation is a bit like asking a roofer to come to your house to give you an estimate on replacing your shingles, and then telling the roofer not to point out that your house is on fire. When the roofer arrives and finds the house on fire, he points it out, and then you get offended because he is telling you what is wrong rather than answering your question.

It's your tank, the purchases are made with your money, and the decisions are yours. You came asking for an opinion from experts, and the experts gave you a unanimous response - your tank is overstocked, do not add anything to it. You can handle that advice however you want, but disliking it or asking not to be told it isn't going to make it any less accurate.

[Northernguy]

Crayfish will destroy the plants.

and they eat fish. This will help with the overstocking issue but your fish may get sick first from any injuries caused by the cray.
If we do not mention the problems to newbs they seem to NOT get it.Then they ask why are my fish dieing.chuckle chuckle.