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    my tank set up is a 10 gallon tank with 1 mountain minnow, 2 bait shop minnows, and 2 goldfish. all these guys grew up together so they dont try to eat each other.
    one of the goldfish is big enough to eat the cloud. but it is used to goldfish. i got the cloud for free when i bought my goldfish because walmart didnt kow what it was. there was just a little tiny mystery fish in with a tank full of goldfish 10 times bigger than it.

    my advise would be to get the smallest goldfish you can find and let them get used to the cloud minnows. they should get along then.

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    Your tank is overstocked.
    What is the nitrate concentration?
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    i never got it tested. i'm not a hardcore fish person, it's just a tank i got from my uncle who wanted to get rid of it. and the fish are doing fine. there's 5 fish and they each have their 2 gallons of water.

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    0 Not allowed!
    ah never mind. we got the water tested. is that what you mean? everything was normal, considering we live nest to a corn field.

  5. #15


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    What is the nitrate concentration.

    They need more than 2 gallons each. Stocking has a lot more to do with water changes than actual volume, but there are minimums. If these are fancy goldfish you need twenty gallons for one and an additional ten gallons for every additional goldfish. If these are long-bodied goldfish they need a huge tank (125 gallons or more).

    Your not being a 'hardcore' fish person doesn't mean it is okay to neglect fish. If you are not going to take proper care of them you need to give them to someone who will.
    Aquarist since 1995
    Biologist and Published Author in Multiple Aquarium Magazines
    Owner: Aquarium Maintenance Company
    Advanced Aquarium Concepts: Articles about many aspects of aquarium care.

  6. #16


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    I'm new, but I've got experience with goldfish. Fishguy is absolutely right. Both ArkD'Julie and firefly have seriously overstocked tanks. Neither one of you should freak out, but making some changes would be much better for your fish.

    ArkD'Julie, if you are still checking back with this thread, you said you were thinking of going with a larger tank. A 55 would be a minimum for keeping all four goldfish. A 75 gallon would be even better. Otherwise, if you want to go with a 40 gallon, I would suggest rehoming at least one of the fish. Two would be better and give you room to play around with adding other species like White Clouds. They won't hurt the goldfish, but the goldfish do find them to be a tasty snack if they can catch them. Or you could cycle the new tank and just move two into the larger tank and keep the 15 gallon set up for the other two. That would at least give them some relief from the stress.

    firefly, in your case, I would get rid of the bait minnows at the very least. I've heard a lot of formulas for stocking tanks from 1 inch of fish per gallon to calculating the surface area for gas exchange. None of these formulas work for goldfish. They are pond fish. They put out a huge amount of ammonia both as the waste you see, and through their gills. They are just not very good fish for a 10 gallon tank. Your fish are not grown up. A long thin goldfish, or comet, gets to be 10 to 12 inches long when they are full grown. A fancy, fantail goldfish get to be the size of softballs. They don't remain small if you keep them in a smaller tank. They remain small because poor water conditions are not allowing them to grow properly. This is not something you can see or smell. There are tests for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate, which will give you an idea of how efficient your filter system is. You can buy the little test kits a WalMart when you get the chance.

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    I keep a school of White Clouds with my Goldies (1 fantail, 1 Ryukin, and 1 Shubunkin) without and issues. The Goldies don't pay much attention to the smaller fish and the WCMM have learned to steer clear of the Goldies at feeding time. My tank temp. is set to 72˙F.

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