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  1. Default fishless cycle help

    ok so i started my fishless cyle for my 10 gal aquarium and i need help. so ive been adding 1 cap full of pure ammonia per day for 3 days now and when i test for ammonia it still says 0. is this normal? how long till it shows ammonia?

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    with a cap full of pure ammonia for three days your ammonia reading should be off the chart. are you sure you are using the testers properly. what are you using to test, strips or liquid testers? did you use any seeded media from another filter?

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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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    ok, so i just did a totally unscientific test on two vials of water using my api test kit. one vial was plain tap water, the other was 4ml tap water and 1ml of "pure" ammonia. the plain tap water tested 1ppm ammonia, which i already knew i had in my tap water. and the vial with the over dose of ammonia showed 0ppm.
    i think its safe to say you have overdosed your tank with ammonia. i would tear it down, rinse everything well in tap water and refill the tank. before you add ammonia test the water, there may be enough residual ammonia so you don't have to add any.
    if you do need to add some, add only a few drops, not a cap full. wait a couple of hours for everything to mix, and test again. so this until you have 2-4ppm ammonia. and don't add any more until that reading goes down to 0 or close to 0.

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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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    I have a 75 gallon that I am cycling at the moment an i only add 4 teaspoons to it to get the ammonia to go to 4 ppm. I would empty out your tank and refill with water with no ammonia like mommy1 said and test it.

    IMO i dont think you need to rinse everything, just make sure you drain the filter and the tank then refill (with dechlorinator of course)

    I made the mistake of overdosing my tank to start with too, and i had to do a 95% water change and without adding ammonia I tested it and it read 4ppm after adding about 70 gallons of water. the ammonia content in your tank my be through the roof.

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    Okay I'll drain it and add new water with dechlorineator or how ever you spell it. Test the water and if it's say 4ppm just from the water change what do I do? I thought you add a little ammonia each day even when you see nitrites and wait till you see nitrates then do a 50% water change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeep3000gt
    Okay I'll drain it and add new water with dechlorineator or how ever you spell it. Test the water and if it's say 4ppm just from the water change what do I do? I thought you add a little ammonia each day even when you see nitrites and wait till you see nitrates then do a 50% water change
    After you fill and test the water IF it says less than 4 parts per million then ad a few DROPS To the tank and retest. that should do it.

    Edit:you need to add a few drops everyday to keep the ammonia level up also.

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    for a 10g you don't really need 4ppm, as lady hobbs is always saying, small tank, small fish. 2-4ppm is fine.
    once you get it there just leave it, that's the beauty of a fishless cycle. its easy. don't make it harder than it is.
    once you have nitrites, keep the ammonia at 1-2ppm, again let it drop to 0 or near 0 before adding more ammonia.
    read this thread, it will answer most of your questions.

    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640

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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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    Yes - Aeonflame You're using coconuts! - Aeonflame What? - Aeonflame You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together. - Aeonflame So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercea, through... - Aeonflame 
    Where'd you get the coconuts? - Aeonflame We found them - Aeonflame Found them? In Mercea? The coconut's tropical! - Aeonflame AeonFlame sent them to us in a message not unlike these. So be off with you. - Aeonflame its always good to give your english teacher an apple - genocidex 
    Here's the closest I can get to a trout from Wyoming. - WhistlingBadger Thanks for the help with the pic, have one on me - Cliff Excuse me.. Is that a pleco in your pocket are are you just platy to see me? - Goes to 11! Much appreciated! - Sligg Because we're in this one together. ;P - KevinVA 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeYourTextHere
    After you fill and test the water IF it says less than 4 parts per million then ad a few DROPS To the tank and retest. that should do it.

    Edit:you need to add a few drops everyday to keep the ammonia level up also.
    you do not need to add ammonia every day. get it to 2ppm and leave it alone until it drops to 0 or near 0. then bring it back up to 2ppm.

    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen

    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mommy1
    you do not need to add ammonia every day. get it to 2ppm and leave it alone until it drops to 0 or near 0. then bring it back up to 2ppm.
    I thought it was 4 ppm. that is what i have had mine at and i have no issues, of course 10 gallons is a lot smaller with less of a need for BB.

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    Yes - Aeonflame You're using coconuts! - Aeonflame What? - Aeonflame You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together. - Aeonflame So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercea, through... - Aeonflame 
    Where'd you get the coconuts? - Aeonflame We found them - Aeonflame Found them? In Mercea? The coconut's tropical! - Aeonflame AeonFlame sent them to us in a message not unlike these. So be off with you. - Aeonflame its always good to give your english teacher an apple - genocidex 
    Here's the closest I can get to a trout from Wyoming. - WhistlingBadger Thanks for the help with the pic, have one on me - Cliff Excuse me.. Is that a pleco in your pocket are are you just platy to see me? - Goes to 11! Much appreciated! - Sligg Because we're in this one together. ;P - KevinVA 

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    4ppm for large tanks with lots of fish or larger fish. 2ppm is fine for smaller tanks that can't house large fish or lots of fish.

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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Smaug, you're here a lot just to say it's a waste of your time, poor baby, I bet you don't even know how big a loser you are, and how much we laugh at you and your foolish attempt to give your life meaning. Quit drinking, get a life, go take care of your family, grow up!


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