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    I went out and got a gravel vac for my tanks and I noticed it was a self start siphon ... I personally love it as I use to have one you had to start yourself. How do you guys feel about the self start?

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    they are nicer than just the normal hose you gotta suck on. Can't hold a candle to a python though.
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    Sounds yucky!

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    I'm a sucker. Who else sucks?
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    I use the kind you have to suck on to get going for a tank that is too far for my Python type hose to reach. only thing about it is having to pay attention to it or it'll overflow the bucket I'm using before I know it lol...I made that mistake once...
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    I line up four buckets into a square, two in front and two in back, all touching each other. Then as I siphon, I go from one bucket to the next as the previous one fills up. I can stop the flow by placing my thumb over the end of the hose, then drop it into the next empty bucket and go again. Can change a lot of water quite quickly that way, and only have to start the siphon once.

    Unless I'm also vacuuming the gravel, I don't even have to completely remove the lid. I just unhinge the front door and take it off, then poke the hose into the water. Can do it from a sitting position, which is easier on my lower back muscles. This is for water changes in between vacs.

    Of course a complete gravel vacuuming requires the whole lid come off, and I just bend and stoop and kneel as best I can to get into all the places I need to. I have to be able to see where that siphon cylindar is at and how much gunk it sucks up with each insertion into the substrate.

    Guess one could say I'm real good at "sucking it up".

    When I'm all finished, I just dump the buckets out over the deck railing.

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    I rarely start a siphon with my mouth anymore. Fish tank water is a large source of salmonella bacteria. As a result, I don't want that in my mouth. I use a Python on almost all my tanks. I use a turkey baster to do water changes and "vacs" on my 2.5gal planted tank. My reef tank is the only one I start with my mouth, but I've gotten rather adept at not getting any in my mouth. lol
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    i have the "suck on style" but ive never actually sucked on it. its hard to explain but it basically is self start.

    i put it in the tank with the opening facing up.
    then i fill it with water and hold it high enough that the water pressure starts draining the water. for me this "primes" my hose (my house is roughly 15 feet long).
    then when the water has drained halfway out of the siphon with the top facing up i quickly dip the top just under the water surface so water "pours" into it.
    raise it again quickly and put it back under and boom the siphon is going.

    takes me a total of maybe 5 seconds to start my siphon and no sucking is involved.

    ive thought about getting a python but with my water change system a python would make it take much much longer than it does now. i love my bottom suction pool drain pump!

    edit: if anyone is interested in the no suck method i can make a thread with pictures to explain it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliriyanna
    I went out and got a gravel vac for my tanks and I noticed it was a self start siphon ... I personally love it as I use to have one you had to start yourself. How do you guys feel about the self start?
    The answers will probably be skewed by how many people have sucked a little too hard or too long.

    By the way, in my experience, tetra water tastes worse than cory water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbosman
    By the way, in my experience, tetra water tastes worse than cory water.
    Your not trying to start it with bye sucking the hose to get it started are you? lol

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