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  1. #21

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    Sometimes when you plug them in after they age a while, some aquaclears have this tendency for the impellers to just not move at all. Makes no noise when it is plugged in. I just have to move the U-tube and touch the impeller with something (I usually use one of my many fish tank "poking sticks". As soon as the impeller is touched it starts up just fine.

    Strange, but IMO worth the minor hassle. All HOB's seem to have their own quirks.

    Marinelands can be a little noisy once the impellers get worn, aqueons make a HORRIBLE screaming noise once the impellers get worn and the media space is crap, F&S's HOB's with the skimmer are great, but when they get dirty they turn into Niagara falls, and AC's have finicky impellers.
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    It does "snap/click" in. You have to push the filter intake tube to it makes a click noise. That is what the directions mean. I have did maintance on many AC filters, and have repaired ACs that are over 12 years old. Once you get the hang out it, its easy.

    The fact that you think a UGF is better then a AC or any HOB scares me. I am sorry, UGF are no where in the same league as any HOB. Even the cheap aquatech filters you get at walmart.

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    I find it easier to add the extension piece to the top piece after the top piece is in place. Just easier to get the first part inserted before adding the stem. Fill FULL of water.

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    Thanks again to everyone for the clarifications and additional instruction. You folks are amazing at filling in the blanks.

    -- mermaid
    20 gal. high: planted; 8 white cloud minnows, 10 RCS, 2 blue shrimp, several snails; AC50, Azoo air. 65 gal: planted; 7 rosy barbs, 6 glofish,, 2 zebra danios, 6 rosy red (fathead) minnows, 3 dojo loaches, several snails; AC110 x 2.

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    I had bought three Marineland Emperor HOB filters for my tanks, and got tired of them sounding like trucks running down the road, read about Aquaclears, and decided to try a couple. They are very quiet, but I can't tell that they are an improvement on the Marineland. In fact, I feel like my Marineland filters with the Biowheel (which I thought was a gimmick) cycled faster and seem more reliable that the Aquaclear. My AC 70 just stopped working altogether two days ago, and my 55 with a 110 on it just doesn't seem to want to cycle. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has compared the two styles.

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    I am a big fan of the Marineland power filters. I just cycled a 40g tank with one in less than 6 days with fish. I have been using Marineland since about 1992, I guess, and my original filter still works. FWIW I prefer the Penguins over the Emperors. The spray bar just doesn't do anything for me and it is just another thing to keep clean.

    I have used a AC70 and it was quiet and worked well but I wouldn't say one is better than the other as far as filtering. The Marinelends cost less though and seem to be sturdier. I would hate to drop an AC because they look like they are pretty frail in the plastic department..

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    Marineland makes crap anymore. I've had several and the quality has gone down and down over the years. They're lousy for custom/bulk media so they're a money pit for replacing carts unless you're really into DIY and the wheels load up, get unbalanced, and stick. Plus the square U tube makes it difficult to add a prefilter sponge. I'll take an AC filter over any Penguin or Emperor (and I own two Penguins and one Emperor currently) any day of the week. Marineland's heaters are constantly being brought up because they keep getting stuck on and cooking fish. I'd rather buy no-name, Chinese knock offs than another Marineland product.

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    I just wanted to echo that ive had some ACs that are finicky about priming as well, its always the same ones and ive had others come to me with the same problem.

    That being said, definitely the best HOB available IMO and thats about the only problem ive ever heard of with them. Glad you got it worked out, air powered UGFs are typically a nightmare.

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    Yeah, as per my other thread, I gave the AC50 another try and finally got it to go together properly, even clicking in the right places. The time it takes to prime before the waterfall begins is much shorter than many have said it should be, but that could just be my unit. My conclusion is that it just doesn't trap enough air to take as long to expel as one that traps a lot more air. Whenever I unplug it (while cleaning media), then plug it back in and refill the media chamber with water, it goes "ruh, ruh, ruh, ruh" for about 10 to 20 seconds, then the waterfall begins and it goes silent. I assume, as Lady Hobbs mentioned, that once that happens, the priming process has completed. I don't even have to help it along by continuing to add water -- it just does it all on its own.

    With the help of everyone here who clarified some matters for me so I knew what to expect, I now have it up and running. It has already gone through one media rinsing -- mainly the sponge -- which was filthy after only a week of filtering.

    I'm going to order a back-up AC50, just in case this one fails for any reason. Without a back-up, I would have no filtration at all in that event, since I took out the UGF.

    Thanks again, folks, for filling the the blanks. The main thing I've learned is that while one should read and follow the printed instructions that come with the unit, they tend to not cover every situation or explain things that go contrary to what they say. I was always taught to take literally what instructions tell you, because that's part of following them. It seems they are, instead, a good general guide and are written in generalized language, but each specific situation can be different and one has to prepare mentally for that and deal with it as it comes up.

    Anyway, my AC50 is filtering and powerful. From what you folks have described the Marineland filters to be like, they sound like more of a hassle to work with, and less reliable.

    -- mermaidwannabe
    20 gal. high: planted; 8 white cloud minnows, 10 RCS, 2 blue shrimp, several snails; AC50, Azoo air. 65 gal: planted; 7 rosy barbs, 6 glofish,, 2 zebra danios, 6 rosy red (fathead) minnows, 3 dojo loaches, several snails; AC110 x 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidwannabe
    The thing didn't prime! The directions said it was supposed to take anywhere from 30 to 45 seconds to expel air (prime) before the waterfall action began. In my case, it didn't expel any air at all. It began the waterfall immediately, which was contrary to what the directions said it was supposed to do.
    You say the waterfall began, right? Well the waterfall can't begin if the filter isn't sucking water in! So if the HOB had water flowing out of it, it was working! Yes?
    Last edited by Plant Man; 01-03-2011 at 08:00 PM.

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