Adding frogs to my setup?

[DrNic]

To give a quick summary I am in the final stages of setting up my 75G indoor pond tank. It's a coldwater tank with no heater that at the moment has 4 comets (may add more?), 3 syno cats, 1 pleco and 1 pearl gourami. It's planted with some java ferns, crypts and anubius and I have some lily pads that will go in next week. Once the lily pads go in I'm going to lower the water level a few inches such that when the lilys bloom they can be seen.

Earlier this evening my wife asked if we would be able to put some frogs into the tank. I thought it was a cool idea. She was very excited about it but I didn't know what to tell her. Would it be possible to add frogs to a setup like this? What kind(s) would be best to use? Would the lilys allow enough area for them to hang out on?

Any suggestions/thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

[troy]

No. They would need a land area to get out on.

[DrNic]

No. They would need a land area to get out on.

Yeah that's what I figured. What if I got a turtle dock (similar to this). Would that be enough land area?

[Fishguy2727]

I wouldn't do any that need land, it is too likely they would escape, not have enough land, be VERY loud, etc. African clawed frogs are fully aquatic and would be the only one I would try. However there are some risks and some people do not recommend mixing them with anything. The plecos could suck on and injure them, they could try to eat the synodontis and both could die, etc.

I wouldn't worry about trying frogs of any type.

[male molly kid]

fire beleed toad just ad a turtel dock feed them cricets maby leperd frog if u have a good cover or cricet frogs feed them frute flys floting frogs come to mind feed frute flys but to ceep eny frog get a good cover

[ShovelheadKevin]

African Clawed Frogs are 100% aquatic and require NO landmass/surface float to climb on. They wouldn't use it anyway.

I have and have had Albinos and although they'll eat anything smaller than them they usually play well together {as long as no radical size differences }.

I like my ACFs because they're a ball to watch and easy as pie to maintain.
Main maintenance is just a weekly bottom cleaning/siphoning and water de-chlor which is SOP for most tanks anyway.
Since they're air-breathers, other than maintaining temp {I keep mine between 76º-80º} and not introducing any toxins and/or illnesses to the tank, that's about all needed to maintain environment. I do have wisteria planted and they seem to like it. Pennywort is next.
I feed mine shrimp pellets, a "treat" of bloodworms every couple of days and when I make it to the pet store, I'll buy a dozen or 2 ghost shrimp for them to enjoy {the ghosts help clean the bottom.......until they get caught & eaten}.
**sidenote: I'm strongly considering raising my own shrimp in the near future **
One major point to remember is that frogs can and will launch themselves out of an open lid of an aquarium. I learned the hard way......losing a 10 year old frog in the process. :-(
Yes.....ACFs will live well over 10 years. and they are VERY robust creatures
Also, when they mature {@ about 2yrs}they DO "thrum" and it's awesome to hear......especially being "serenaded" to sleep by them. {The males are more prone to a low level thrum......not a bullfrog bullhorn. lol } Eyes closed and with filter splash and thrumming frogs you're at the lake or river......great way to drift off!

This is my first post here and I hope it helps.
Good luck & healthy aquatics, whatever your choice ends up being.

Here's a legal notice I found on wiki that you'll need to look at before considering any ACFs:
"Due to incidences in which these frogs were released and allowed to escape into the wild, African Clawed Frogs are illegal to own, transport or sell without a permit in the following US states: Arizona, California, Kentucky, Louisiana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Virginia, Hawaii[15], Nevada, and Washington state. However, it is legal to own Xenopus laevis in Canada."

[plantedlab]

I could be wrong here, but aren't all the fully aquatic frogs out there warm water species? I don't think the african calwed would be a good idea in your cold water setup. For other frogs, If you really want them to bee happy, they need some land, and some shallow wading area.