Aquarium Forum
 


Menu
  · Tropical Fish Home
· Fish News
· Aquarium Forum
· Calculators
· Free Aquarium Ebook
· Feedback
· Photo gallery
· Plant species
· Tropica Plant DB
Tropical fish species
· By Common name
· By Scientific name
Tropical Marine fish
· By Common name
· By Scientific name

Articles
  · African Cichlids
· Algae Control
· Aquarium Decoration
· Aquarium Resources
· Aquatic Plants
· Barb Fish
· Betta Fish
· Breeding Fish
· Catfish
· Central American Cichlids
· Cichlids
· Clownfish
· Corals
· Corydoras Catfish
· Discus Fish
· Dwarf Cichlids
· Fish Diseases
· Frogs and Turtles
· Goby Fish
· Goldfish
· Gourami
· Invertebrates
· Jellyfish
· Killiefish
· Lake Victoria Cichlids
· Livebearers
· Malawi Cichlids
· Marine Aquariums
· Marine Aquarium Fish
· Other Fish
· Pleco
· Predatory Fish
· Photography
· Pond Fish
· Responsible Fish Keeping
· Rainbow Fish
· Shark Fish
· South American Cichlids
· Tanganyika Cichlids
· Tetra Fish
· Tropical Fish Food

User Tag List

Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    289

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    For your AC tank! - Northernguy   heres a cardinal to add to your school, well technically a neon, but... - lobsternoob   No Message - korith   Good luck building your bettas' new home :-) - SunSchein89   

    Default Ideal pH for a betta?


    0 Not allowed!
    Hey there. I am thinking of creating a DIY carbon dioxide kit with brewer's yeast and sugar. I will have this set up for a small 6.6 tank. I have a lot of plants and want to ensure healthy plants. But I don't want the pH levels to drop dangerously low. I have pH testing strips. My questions are:

    1) Are there any products you can recommend to control the pH? Is it in liquid form? Recommended brand?

    2) What is a healthy pH for a betta? My water is a tad alkaline at this point and is around 8. My water is hard also.

    Hope to get some great pointers from you fine people. :)

  2. #2

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    11,091

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    Your first gift on AC, Welcome to the forum! - Brookfish   welcome - Algenco   Welcome to AC - Celtic Fins   Congrats on your awards! - Brookfish   Congratulations on your award. - Celtic Fins   
    Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - rich311k   Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - rich311k   World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - rich311k   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    I beleive you said you had hard water, so nothing to worry about. The PH change from CO2 injection is of little effect on a fish. It takes a change in disolved solids to effect the fish and CO2 will not change that. The danger from CO2 comes from to much being put into the water, once levels get above 50ppm things can start getting hairy for our fishy friends. It is hard to overdose CO2 with DIY but it is possible especuially in a small tank so be aware of any changes in the fish's behavior.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Posts
    10,933

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    You need gifts - Lady Hobbs   And another - Lady Hobbs   What he had up his --- - Chrona   No, serioulsy. EVERYONE KICK HIM! - Drumachine09   RAK - DemonShark   
    Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - gm72   Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - gm72   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    pH stability, not the actual number, is usually the most important value for fish. They are usually very adaptable but don't handle wide pH swings well. So, if your pH is stable at that level you'll be just fine. The betta will adapt, just acclimate well and for that consider drip acclimation or at least a prolonged acclimation to ease him into the new conditions.
    8 tanks running now:
    1x 220 gallon, 2x55 gallon, 1x40 gallon long, 1x29 gallon, 1x20 gallon long, 1x5.5 gallon, 1x2 gallon
    Gouramis, barbs, rasboras, plecos, corys, tetras, fancy guppies, swordtails, ottos, rainbow shark, upside-down catfish, snails, and Max and Sparkles the bettas.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    289

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    For your AC tank! - Northernguy   heres a cardinal to add to your school, well technically a neon, but... - lobsternoob   No Message - korith   Good luck building your bettas' new home :-) - SunSchein89   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Thanks, guys. Hey what is drip acclimation? I have idea what you mean by that.

    I read somewhere that CO2 injection could lower the pH to 3 which is the same acidity as vinegar! I got the impression that this was too acidic for fish.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Drive North, First igloo on right
    Posts
    21,335

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    Thanks and your first gift!! - The Red Severum   Eggs woo hoo!!! - Gayle   My new buddy.  LOL - Lady Hobbs   because you're always there to help! - gourami*girl   A beer for my fellow canuck! - NickFish   
    Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - Northernguy   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Stable ph is always best.If you bought the fish locally there is a good chance that you and the lfs have the same ph and water supply,unless you are on a well.
    Keeping the same ph as what is suggested best for your fish is most important when you have wild caught fish.
    Not sure what the co2 will do to your ph.3 is way too low!lol
    6 is very acidic.3 is acid!

    This is how to drip acclimate.
    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=62211
    Ray Your Freindly Neighborhood,Fully Mod-ified, Self-appointed Pic Hound!! Need pics!!!
    Have you filled out your profile yet ?????????????
    The Fabulous AC ebook Please read>http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/ebook.html

  6. #6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    11,091

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    Your first gift on AC, Welcome to the forum! - Brookfish   welcome - Algenco   Welcome to AC - Celtic Fins   Congrats on your awards! - Brookfish   Congratulations on your award. - Celtic Fins   
    Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - rich311k   Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - rich311k   World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - rich311k   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by AdrienDeLaChicago
    Thanks, guys. Hey what is drip acclimation? I have idea what you mean by that.

    I read somewhere that CO2 injection could lower the pH to 3 which is the same acidity as vinegar! I got the impression that this was too acidic for fish.
    I do not think carbolic acid will go that low. You could get CO2 well over 100ppm if you pump it in. You could make soda in your tank if you had the CO2 to burn. That will not happen. High CO2 levels would kill the fish long before the PH got to dangerous levels.

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    289

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    For your AC tank! - Northernguy   heres a cardinal to add to your school, well technically a neon, but... - lobsternoob   No Message - korith   Good luck building your bettas' new home :-) - SunSchein89   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Okay, I thought that CO2 would raise pH levels and that I would need to watch out for any problems as a result. I will give it a try and report back any problems , if they are any.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    5,145

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    Thank you for all the advice - Cliff   No Message - Aydreean   Thanks! Here's a shrimp for ya. - Flakes4Bait   Thank you!!! - harpua2002   Merry X-mass, and thanks for the help this past year - Cliff   
    Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - korith   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    The wildturkey wrote up an nice diy about drip acclimating in http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=39559

    So let's say you bought a fish at the lfs, and you brought it home. The fish has to adapt from the lfs water to yours. The idea is to do this slowly by drip acclimating. Too large of a change in water conditions done quickly, can be a shock to the fish and can cause them to die. Invertebrates like shrimp are very sensitive to changes in water conditions if done too quickly.

    I have a 10g planted tank with a co2, the only occupant is a crowntail betta. He's doing well enough. Just remember to have some sort of water agitation happening during the night.

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    289

    Awards Showcase

    Latest gifts & ribbons:

    For your AC tank! - Northernguy   heres a cardinal to add to your school, well technically a neon, but... - lobsternoob   No Message - korith   Good luck building your bettas' new home :-) - SunSchein89   

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    I did a search on youtube and was able to find a demonstration of the drip acclimation. I get how this works now.

    But if I were to start my own DIY carbon dioxide with brewer's yeast and sugar and the pH gradually went up I believe it would be the same gradual adjustment for the fish. This is, of course, assuming that the pH doesn't get out of control. I will be watching it closely when I do decide to do this.

    Thanks for your help.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •