Ok, who's good with some numbers?

**vita1989** · 03-28-2010, 03:48 PM

I own a 40 gallon breeder aquarium, lots of hiding places, crushed coral substrate, filtration is as follows
-2x aquaclear 70's
-1x aquaclear 110

2x bubble disks.

tank is always crystal clear, i never get any readings on my paramater checks, ph - 7.6

Now, if im not mistaken, and forgive me on the names....

4x yellow labs
2x hap flamebacks
1x cherry fin cichlid
2x kenyi
2x blue johanni? i believe
3x clown loaches
2x gold nugget pleco's
3x rusty cichlid
2x acci
2x demosani

now, not to forget, none of these fish are full grown, and this tank most likely will not be there permanent living space.

i see little - no agression, and they've been living togethor since they were

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that big lol,

is it heavily overstocked? or is it within reason of the malawi rule of overstocking avoids agression?

**fish00053** · 03-28-2010, 03:55 PM

Not sure on your species of fish that you have. I have a 125 gal with alot of fish in their. All are community fish. They still like to have their own little place so to speak. As far as aggression I believe that all species have some aggression so to speak.

**Northernguy** · 03-28-2010, 03:58 PM

Its not so bad as long as the fish are still small.
The clowns will definitly outgrow that tank but they are slow growers.
I think when the aggression issues do start it will be time for that upgrade.lol

Where are the pics? lol

**vita1989** · 03-28-2010, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Northernguy

Its not so bad as long as the fish are still small.
The clowns will definitly outgrow that tank but they are slow growers.
I think when the aggression issues do start it will be time for that upgrade.lol

Where are the pics? lol

slightly old pic, about 2 weeks, i've since changed the layout a bit.

**Lab_Rat** · 03-28-2010, 04:30 PM

IMO, that's too heavily stocked, even for mbuna. I'd remove the cl and the plecs. Are the plecs that small as well? You may get by with it for now, but soon it will be way too much. That tank isn't a great length for mbuna either, though the width helps compensate a little.

**vita1989** · 03-28-2010, 04:37 PM

without the cl's and plec's its fine though?

**sailor** · 03-28-2010, 05:26 PM

The johanni and the kenyians will be the most aggressive species in that tank imo. I think you will end up with just these to species as they will probably stress everyone else in the tank out. You look to have a frontosa in there as well and he will defineately not do well in that mix.

I would stick with just a couple of species in a tank that size.

**Sarkazmo** · 03-28-2010, 07:40 PM

Overstocked as in too much for your filtration, no. Species wise it's a different story as has been pointed out above. That's definitely some serious filtration you've got though. :)

Sark

**rhonin** · 03-28-2010, 08:04 PM

What is your water like?

While yhis appears heavily overstocked, with your current filtartion you might be okay.
Test your water and trust in the results.
You will need to make larger than normal water changes / week - 50% or more.

Bigger concern is the species you have.
I would work on a second larger tank and either move these or the others.
2x kenyi
2x blue johanni? i believe
2x demosani

As these guys grow you will want larger.
I have 10 mbuna in a 60 long and it gets wild in there at times.
I'm looking at upgrading to a 100g for these.

Luck!!

**vita1989** · 03-29-2010, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by rhonin

What is your water like?

While yhis appears heavily overstocked, with your current filtartion you might be okay.
Test your water and trust in the results.
You will need to make larger than normal water changes / week - 50% or more.

Bigger concern is the species you have.
I would work on a second larger tank and either move these or the others.
2x kenyi
2x blue johanni? i believe
2x demosani

As these guys grow you will want larger.
I have 10 mbuna in a 60 long and it gets wild in there at times.
I'm looking at upgrading to a 100g for these.

Luck!!

well i do 25% every 4 days or so, 3 if i have time, i've never had any readings other than during cycling, and the frontosa was given to a good friend starting off, i told him it was gonna get big but its happy in a 30 gal all by itself right now, im thinking of picking up an apartment in the summer, so i'll be able to put up a new tank, our local big als is having a huuuuge sale, im thinking of picking up something 125 gal+? lol, call me crazy but meh, is there any reason why this tank wouldnt work out?