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03-18-2010, 12:55 AM #21
Originally Posted by james20
Do you know what I mean by "hardy"? I can assure you he isn't starting new tanks, just putting in brand new filter and heater, dumping in water, dechlorinator, and 4 or 5 discus as the 1st fish....lolLet the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine. - Nikola Tesla
03-19-2010, 11:02 PM #22
He had serpae tetras tiger barbs some cichlids and a pictus cat. It was a very large tank
03-19-2010, 11:30 PM #23
When I take on something new...I research it.
I go buy an introductory book...and then as I sort things out for myself...I Google them...
...and then eventually I may join a forum!
I am always flabbergasted that other people don't start by buying a book and picking up the basics.
Every book I've ever read...even the old ones with so much misinformation in then...do mention the tank needing to cycle...55 g Goldfish Tank - 3 Fancies, 2 Comets
25 g Tropical Tank - Celestial Pearl Danio/Mixed
03-19-2010, 11:47 PM #24
0Originally Posted by james20
1st of all Large tanks are easier to cycle than small because as long as you do not overstock then the poisons are majorly diluted thus more tolerant to mistakes.
2nd If you click on my link in my sig that says "Selecting your 1st Fish for a new FW tank" You will see a list of fish and you will notice most of what you listed in your fathers tank are GOOD 1st or 2nd choice Fish (Very Hardy).
So even though he didn't follow the scientific method on purpose he did basically follow it anyway.
Thus my original statement bares true...
Originally Posted by tanks4thememoriesLet the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine. - Nikola Tesla
03-20-2010, 12:52 AM #25
I understand cycling and I wouldn't start a tank without doing it. However, there are MANY people who come in to buy fish at the pet store where I work and they have just set up their tank with brand new filters, didn't even know about using dechlor or water conditioner. And when I tell them about cycling, etc, they think I'm crazy because they threw their fish in and they were fine.
These people didn't add dechlor, didn't do any water changes, overfed and over stocked. And their fish lived. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. It goes against everything... that makes sense!
03-20-2010, 04:31 AM #26
0Originally Posted by rothenb1Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine. - Nikola Tesla
03-20-2010, 09:04 AM #27
Many still do not pre-cycle but the success depends on the experience of the hobbyist. The experienced have learned that it will require many water changes and a low stock of fish to get them thru it successfully. They've also learned that only their first tank needs to be cycled and all other later tanks get an instant cycle from simply moving the used filter media to the new tank. The problem is that newbies do not know this. They don't know about growing bacteria. They don't know they should be testing their water for toxins. They don't know about overstocking a new tank, over-feeding and needing dozens of water changes. And they don't know a large tank will get far less toxic than smaller tanks or that a tank fully planted will help absorb some of those toxins.
Fishless cycling is not new to this forum. Read the internet. It's been out there for a long, long time simply because you save your fish and you grow such a huge load of bacteria right from the beginning that you are able to fully stock your tank right from the beginning with no deaths, no daily water changes and far less work in the long run.