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    I setup my new tank for my Jacks. I had planned on letting it cycle a little until I checked the water they were in. (My friend gave me the fish and tank). I checked the nitrates and they were deadly high(over 250). I moved them to the new tank 2 days ago. I must say the nitrates were really stressing them, they are moving much more and not hiding as much. Here's the problem. I am new to cichlids. The little one (male) has lost a lot of color. He was very colorful last night. He was pretty dark and had decient color. Today he all the sudden is very light in color, almost like he's washed out. The big one (female) has not changed color.

    PH: 7.0, Alkalinity: 120, Hardness: 120, Nitrates and Nitrites are 0. Temp is 78-80.

    Is this normal? Is it because of the sudden amount of light. I will say the female hides more than the male so less light gets to her. Other than the water there are only 2 differences between their old tank and new (other than it's a 3 times bigger tank. My friend didn't care so they never had light. They are under 10 hours a day now. The other difference is the tanks in a place with more people around. I hope this is nothing, they seem ok otherwise... still a little scared of people but swim and chase each other around.

    Thanks,
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    1-110 gallon tank containing:
    3 Bala Sharks
    2 Silver Tip Sharks
    6 Tiger Barbs
    5 Long Fin Barbs
    2 Pink Kissing Gouramis
    2 Spotted Rubber Pleco
    All Live Plants

    New 29 gallon tank Containing:
    2 Jack Dempseys

    Man this is fun!!

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    Have you checked the ammonia level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzlefish
    Have you checked the ammonia level?
    Don't have a way to test it... I thought of that but couldn't check it... Could that be the problem? What's the best way to fix it?

    Oh yeah, the water's cloudy too... don't know if that matters?

    Thanks,
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    1-110 gallon tank containing:
    3 Bala Sharks
    2 Silver Tip Sharks
    6 Tiger Barbs
    5 Long Fin Barbs
    2 Pink Kissing Gouramis
    2 Spotted Rubber Pleco
    All Live Plants

    New 29 gallon tank Containing:
    2 Jack Dempseys

    Man this is fun!!

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    Check your ammonia. IMMEDIATELY. Buy a test kit. NOW.
    8 tanks running now:
    1x 220 gallon, 2x55 gallon, 1x40 gallon long, 1x29 gallon, 1x20 gallon long, 1x5.5 gallon, 1x2 gallon
    Gouramis, barbs, rasboras, plecos, corys, tetras, fancy guppies, swordtails, ottos, rainbow shark, upside-down catfish, snails, and Max and Sparkles the bettas.

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    Well... as usual the people on here know their stuff.... Ammonia was in the stressful level... 25% water changes all the time for me now... As long as the fish are ok I don't care to do more work... I was really damned if I did/Damned if I didn't. The ammonia is high in this tank and the nitrates were through the roof in the other tank. I swap the BioMax from my well established 110 and put it in the filter for this tank, that should help!!

    Thanks again everyone!
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    1-110 gallon tank containing:
    3 Bala Sharks
    2 Silver Tip Sharks
    6 Tiger Barbs
    5 Long Fin Barbs
    2 Pink Kissing Gouramis
    2 Spotted Rubber Pleco
    All Live Plants

    New 29 gallon tank Containing:
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    25% water changes "all the time now". Not sure what you mean. Weekly? Bi-weekly?
    8 tanks running now:
    1x 220 gallon, 2x55 gallon, 1x40 gallon long, 1x29 gallon, 1x20 gallon long, 1x5.5 gallon, 1x2 gallon
    Gouramis, barbs, rasboras, plecos, corys, tetras, fancy guppies, swordtails, ottos, rainbow shark, upside-down catfish, snails, and Max and Sparkles the bettas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm72
    25% water changes "all the time now". Not sure what you mean. Weekly? Bi-weekly?
    I figure every 2-3 days? Unless you have a suggestion?
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    1-110 gallon tank containing:
    3 Bala Sharks
    2 Silver Tip Sharks
    6 Tiger Barbs
    5 Long Fin Barbs
    2 Pink Kissing Gouramis
    2 Spotted Rubber Pleco
    All Live Plants

    New 29 gallon tank Containing:
    2 Jack Dempseys

    Man this is fun!!

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    do a 30-50% change weekly, but 75% is better. 250 nitrates? WOW, thats high

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    I'm surprised they lived thru nitrates that high. Nitrates should be at or below 30 and more like 10-20. My neon's turned nearly white when I had a recent algae bloom and nitrates hit 40.

    You have to have the test kits if you have fish. All this moving of the fish, setting the tank back up and adding all these fish at once thru the tank into another cycle. Did you use the same gravel your friend had? If you did, and didn't wash it in tap water, you should have the tank going again in a short time along with used filter media. If not, or you used new gravel, you are going thru another whole cycling process.

    Your tank is trying to finish up it's cycle by having these high nitrates but having them that high is as toxic as the ammonia and nitrites.

    You need to do a large water change and then keep up on it every couple of days until you have no more ammonia, nitrites and your nitrates are reasonable.

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    Amazing... Put established BioMax in my filter last night and changed the water this morning... 150% diference. They aren't hiding as much and their color is back!! Thanks for all the help!!
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    1-110 gallon tank containing:
    3 Bala Sharks
    2 Silver Tip Sharks
    6 Tiger Barbs
    5 Long Fin Barbs
    2 Pink Kissing Gouramis
    2 Spotted Rubber Pleco
    All Live Plants

    New 29 gallon tank Containing:
    2 Jack Dempseys

    Man this is fun!!

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