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    As mentioned in a previous thread, chrona said you dont need co2 as long as you have ferts. I know amazon swords, and java moss/fern are good without anything special, but what else would work? Cabomba is uber-cheap here, and i can get about 10 bushels for practically nothing, cause i got connections with the LFS. Could cabombas work? What about anubias, corkscrew val, and banana plant?
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    No I said if you don't have high lighting and keep undemanding plants, then you can skip CO2/ferts. (Though growth is obviously better with them)

    Basic setup:

    1x 15 watt fluorescent light strip
    Gravel substrate
    java ferns
    java moss
    anubias
    Lots of rocks to attach them too (or driftwood)


    If you have a rich substrate like Ecocomplete or Flourite:
    Java fern
    Java moss
    Crypts
    Hygrophila
    Some varieties of ludwigia
    Marsilea (ground cover)
    anubias

    Banana plants will work as well. Cabomba will probably survive, but it'll look gangly and not full, since it prefers high light. The idea is to get a bunch of low light plants that will THRIVE in your tank, as opposed to higher light plants that just scrape by. If you want deals on plants, then browse through plantedtank.net's swap and shop section. TONS of great deals. Lot's of people will give you common plants for only the cost of shipping
    Last edited by Chrona; 04-28-2007 at 02:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrona
    No I said if you don't have high lighting and keep undemanding plants, then you can skip CO2/ferts. (Though growth is obviously better with them)

    Basic setup:

    1x 15 watt fluorescent light strip
    Gravel substrate
    java ferns
    java moss
    anubias
    Lots of rocks to attach them too (or driftwood)


    If you have a rich substrate like Ecocomplete or Flourite:
    Java fern
    Java moss
    Crypts
    Hygrophila
    Some varieties of ludwigia
    Marsilea (ground cover)
    anubias

    Banana plants will work as well. Cabomba will probably survive, but it'll look gangly and not full, since it prefers high light. The idea is to get a bunch of low light plants that will THRIVE in your tank, as opposed to higher light plants that just scrape by. If you want deals on plants, then browse through plantedtank.net's swap and shop section. TONS of great deals. Lot's of people will give you common plants for only the cost of shipping


    Ok, im making some money latley, and i think i can afford to shell out for 10-15 lbs of eco complete, some plants and such. i have the one strip light. Is there a special bulb i need too? I am really jealous of the planted tanks.


    What would we do without chrona? Not have planted tanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumachine09
    Ok, im making some money latley, and i think i can afford to shell out for 10-15 lbs of eco complete, some plants and such. i have the one strip light. Is there a special bulb i need too? I am really jealous of the planted tanks.


    What would we do without chrona? Not have planted tanks!
    Is the strip light an AGA one? They come with 9000ish K bulbs, which will work fine. Basically as long as it doesn't have a yellowish tint to it, it's ok.

    And if it's more than a year and a half old, then I'd replace it. Don't bother with the fancy plant gro bulbs. The normal daylight 6700k full spectrum bulbs work fine. Should be a few bucks.


    Mm, let's see....perhaps have to look it all up yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrona
    Mm, let's see....perhaps have to look it all up yourself?
    Its AGA.

    And put you out of work? NEVER! lol
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    Btw, don't have TOO high of expectations. Those amazing tanks you see in the pictures all have quite a bit of lighting, a strict fertilization schedule, pressurized CO2, ADA Aquasoil, etc, etc. So while your tank will probably not be breathtaking, it certainly can look nice. And should you decide to upgrade lighting/co2/ferts in the future, it's just an easy transition.

    Just a disclaimer, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrona
    Btw, don't have TOO high of expectations. Those amazing tanks you see in the pictures all have quite a bit of lighting, a strict fertilization schedule, pressurized CO2, ADA Aquasoil, etc, etc. So while your tank will probably not be breathtaking, it certainly can look nice. And should you decide to upgrade lighting/co2/ferts in the future, it's just an easy transition.

    Just a disclaimer, lol.

    I read it really fast, kinda like they do on TV disclaimers.


    I know it wont look THAT good, but i imagine i could get it to look decent by my standards at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumachine09
    I read it really fast, kinda like they do on TV disclaimers.


    I know it wont look THAT good, but i imagine i could get it to look decent by my standards at least.
    kk, lemme know if you run into anything :)

    Btw, make sure that the bag of Eco (if you get it) doesn't look milky brown or whitish. There was some reports of contaminated bags that leeched phosphates, but they fixed that problem. As long as you don't buy from a store that has had their bag sitting there for months, you should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrona
    kk, lemme know if you run into anything :)

    Btw, make sure that the bag of Eco (if you get it) doesn't look milky brown or whitish. There was some reports of contaminated bags that leeched phosphates, but they fixed that problem. As long as you don't buy from a store that has had their bag sitting there for months, you should be fine.
    Alright cool. I sold some un needed paintball stuff, so i should be getting another $40 tommorow, to add to my 22$, and if i wait another week, ill get another 30, and i might possibly get rid of another paintball gun which would be 75, so my budget will be fat. Just got to do everything right and not screw it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumachine09
    Alright cool. I sold some un needed paintball stuff, so i should be getting another $40 tommorow, to add to my 22$, and if i wait another week, ill get another 30, and i might possibly get rid of another paintball gun which would be 75, so my budget will be fat. Just got to do everything right and not screw it up.
    I like that way of thinking :)

    The substrate is the hardest thing to replace in a tank. Take it from experience, it's well worth it to invest in a good one right off the bat instead of sticking your fish in a bucket for 2 hours while you remove the clown puke and put in Flourite and do repeated water changes to get it clean again, lol.
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