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    Hi! I'm posting in a bunch of forums because I really need help... I think this is the 4th forum I have gone to...
    At my job we have a fish tank and its not doing well. They have had it for years, far before I started, and the staff who used to take care of it left. Since then it was periodically taken care of by someone else, but the tank isn't doing well. I have begun taking care of it as I couldn't stand to see the fish die. From what I understand the store who selected the fish did not choose fish that go well together.
    In a 55 gal there was a (forgive me if any of this is wrong I think fish are pretty but am just learning about them) kissing fish, an Oscar, a Jack Dempsey, Pleco and a Tetra that looks like it could be a Buenos Aires or could be a Barb? (No one knows what kind of fish there are, this is from asking friends and staring at fish pictures.) By the time I started only JD, the Pleco, and the Tetra/Barb were left. I took over when the Pleco was struggling to live. Sadly he passed on. Since then I have scrubbed the tank and we have them feeder fish (Goldfish, as recommended by the store) and two of the goldfish turned into pets for the others in the tank.
    The big fish are still not doing well and are losing their colors. Which is why I am having a hard time figuring out if the Tetra/Barb is what I think it is.
    Anyway. My bosses requested to get a school of fish to make the tank more lively. I know they can't go into the same tank as JD and the Tetra/Barb so my bosses bought a 29 gal. Upon further reading and research I have learned that Jack cannot go into such a small tank.
    My questions for you guys is what kind of fish can we put in with them, and any advice for making them happier? I'm trying to find a good balance between what my bosses want and what is best for the fish. I can include picture of the fish and the two tanks if you guys need them.

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    Welcome to the AC.

    Pics of the tank and fish would help tremendously.

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    What filters do you have in the tank?

    I suspect that since the tank was scrubbed, it is no longer cycled and suitable for fish to live in.

    How to cycle a tank with fish

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    Rock, what are your thoughts on compatibility with the current fish in the tank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Rock, what are your thoughts on compatibility with the current fish in the tank?
    Sounds like there is only a few goldfish, a JD, and a mystery fish (tetra). I really need to see pictures of the 55g, and the fish in it. A female JD can do fine for life in a 55g, unless of course it is already more than 8" long.

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    This is the current tank, I know we don't have the right set up, I'm working on that with management. 20160909_154308.jpg

    This is Jack
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    And this is the Barb? Or Tetra? Leaning closer to Barb...
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    And for the fun of it! The goldfish that were never eaten!
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    Thank you so much for any help! I really don't know what I am doing, but I can't stand by and let the fish get hurt and die. I am trying to fix whatever I can and prevent anything else from happening.

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    I didn't fully empty it, I did take out all the decorations and cleaned them with just water, but had to scrub. I also cleaned off the algae. When replacing the water we put "Tetra safe" in and waiting a half hour before adding the water. Since then we have only done more partial changes, each time with Tetra Safe, and washed off the decorations again. I was told to change the carbon? filters on the filter, which is an Emperor 400.

    From the looks I would say that Jack is around 5 inches and the other big fish is around 4 or so. How do I measure a fish that is in water? Just eyeball it?
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    Get the liquid test kit I linked, and read the fish-in cycling sticky Rocksor provided.

    The Tetra Safe is OK for now, but get this product, it is the best conditioner available, IMO: https://www.amazon.com/Seachem-11604.../dp/B00025694O
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    I believe that barb is a Puntius filamentosus, aka black spot barb or filament barb.

    As for the JD... is it a trick of the photo, or is its spine bent like a banana?
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    At first I thought that Jack Dempsey was a female Flowerhorn. Doing a little bit of research before I found out there are 'pink' Jack Dempseys. Do you guys think its one of those?

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