Our 29G GloFish Beginner Tank
I wanted to first thank this great community for a wealth of information. I've been searching and reading for weeks as I've been getting ready for my new tank project.
I kept freshwater fish, reptiles, rodents, etc., as a kid, but haven't had a tank since. Like many, I jumped at the opportunity when my 9yo daughter saw glofish at Petsmart, and asked for them for Christmas.
Soooo... Rather than buy a glofish kit, I did some more research on cycling and equipment, and found a good LFS as well as some online sources. I've put together an initial tank with decorations.
Here's here setup:
Filtration: Aqueon LED whisper 30 (rated for 30gal; came with kit), AC50 (Purchased after research--a little more than 2x filtration)
Heater: Aqueon PowerHeat 100W set @ 82 degrees
Aeration: 1 airstone, 1 clam
Light: ??? Blue/White LED multi-mode
Decorations: black background, natural rock, plastic plants, decor
We filled the tank on Christmas, and used seachem prime to treat the tap water. I read up on ammonia fishless cycling, and talked to my LFS, and they didn't recommend that, so I'm going their route for now --- posting here partially for validation. I've been feeding flakes every other day, with aeration and filtration on, in order to get the bacteria started. After 1 week, they want me to bring water in for testing, and anticipate sending me home with a few 'starter fish' (small danio's) to 'get things established'. and let nature take it's course. Afer not really touching for a month, they then expect me to be able to start cleaning the tank and stocking more regularly.
I've done some searching and haven't seen any protocol similar to this. These guys really seem to know what they're doing, though, and have offered to buy back the starter fish when I'm done. They also provide lifetime free water testing, sell freshwater, and seem generally very interested in my tank being successful.
That said, I don't want to slow things down unnecessarily or end up with a suboptimal tank setup. Truth be told, I'd much rather take my time and stock slowly to end up with the correct cycle.
This is my daughter's tank, so she'll dictate stocking to a major degree. She loves glofish, and, well, science, so those will be in the mix... I'm thinking the tetra's, and maybe the zebra's. Probably not the barbs. Glowlight's also look great, and it would be fun to have a centerpiece fish of some sort. Maybe a single angel or a ram. I need to do a LOT of research here, but I'm a long way off from anything more than a couple of schools of tetras I think.
Any other stocking advice? Am I being lead astray by my LFS on how to cycle with a hearty fish? Any suggested readings beyond voracious reading on here? I'm so excited to be dipping my toes back in to the hobby again! I'm already thinking about my next tanks...
I did pick up an API master test kit and took the following readings today, 5 days after initial fill and with filtration running and food decomposing. pH 7.6 , ammonia 0.5ppm, nitrities 0.25ppm .
I tried to attach some pictures and a little video... You can tell we're taking the glofish/psychedelic theme pretty far :)
Welcome to the community
No problem with doing fish-in cycles these were all I was brought up on until hearing about using pure ammonia.
Danios are probably the number one fish used because of there high ammonia tolerance.
Grab a seachem alert pack for an ammonia alert its a nice thing to have while fish in cycle so you know when to do an emergency water change, If your ammonia spikes.
If you haven't already I would replace any cartridge that came with the filter for a more efficient bio media like seachem matrix.
Last edited by AmazonJoe; 12-31-2016 at 01:17 AM.
Welcome to AC,
I have done both fish in and fish less. In the long run I prefer fish less. For me its a moral choice, no damage at all to the fish. View I really take is less work on water changes, to keep the stress down of the fish.
One thing I will always advocate is a test kit. They are very handy for monitoring your water params. Fit in with science as well.
Plus helps keep you alerted when things need to be done.
Also be sure to read this link.
Looking forward to hearing some up-dates as time goes on.
Wow, 2 great very quick replies. Thank you! I'll pickup Seachem Alert tomorrow...
I'll also pick up some Seachem matrix for both filters. I'm assuming this is pretty standard stuff at my LFS? I'm supposed to head back tomorrow to pick up the danio's, and I'd want to swap the media out first. For the AC50, am I replacing both the chalky media and the carbon?
I'll have to consider the ethical implications of cycling with the fish... The store said they used to carry ammonia, but ran into too many issues with additives now they just cycle with food. I know rule 1 is learn enough to go into the store without having to ask any questions, but sometimes I just can't resist... I could also just hit the hardware store tomorrow and amazon for the media. Decisions :)
Oh, and great advice on the test kit - I picked up an API master test kit, and my daughter has started a log. We tested pH, ammonia and nitrites today. She was fascinated.
Yea the LFS might carry seachem matrix otherwise a good backup choice it Fluval biomax. Could always order off Amazon as well.
Are you meaning swapping the filter media out of the filter for clean new stuff?? If so the Bacteria in it is going to be thrown away and wasted.
Only times I ever replace anything in my filters is carbon and that is if i need to use which i rarely ever do. Other wise I rinse the filter wool out and place back in. Be sure to rinse in tank water that is being syphoned out on water change time.
Welcome to the AC.
To be honest, any local fish store (LFS) that recommends against fishless cycling is one that I would avoid.
Pet/fish stores exist for one purpose: to make money. The vast majority of them do not care/have no knowledge of what constitutes a successful tank with healthy fish.
Have a look at the cycling stickies in the Beginner section of the forum.
Also, I started out in a very similar situation as you have...a glance at the 10G journal in my sig below may serve you well, lots of great info there for beginners.
10 Gallon Beginner Tank... Journal
40 Gallon Breeder: ... Journal
29 Gallon: ... Journal
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went” - Will Rogers
Well, I'm not sure... I have 1 week of bacterial growth on the media in both of the filters I'm running now. I could swap them out on a staggered basis, or just when the media needs to be replaced?
I installed the single pack that came with the Aqueon 20, and the Foam + Carbon + biomedia bag from the AC50. I'm thinking I should have not used what came with either, but now that they're both running, I'm not sure what I should do.
I don't have to go with their fish-in cycle; I haven't picked any fish up so there's nothing stopping me from running to the hardware store tomorrow, picking up the ammonia, following the stickie, and then stock once my cycle is complete and my levels look good. I just have a week worth of warm water and decomposed fish food cycling through a tank.
That was my plan to begin with actually until I went into the LFS, and they talked up their method and how successful it's been with their custom installs, yadda yadda yadda, free water testing, guarantees on all fish. It didn't seem scammy, but you folks are the experts and that's why I came here. Thank you.
If you can I would do a fish-less cycle. Its more safer, and practical.
As for the for the media like filter wool foam pad, I just rinse them and replace back into the filter. Easy cheaper than replacing all the foams and medias. Plus you do not loose the bacteria from your tanks filter either.