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Thread: SAE or Oto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvMyGoldBarb
    PV, your best option is to actually find out the source of the algae and prevent it. Algae is not a problem in and of itself, it is a symptom of a problem. If you are having that much of a problem with it you may have to many nutrients or not enough CO2 or too much light for what you have with those other 2. What is your dosing routine? (What are you dosing, how much, and how often?)

    I'm dosing seachem iron and flourish every other week, along with nitrates, trace, and potassium in a dry fertilizer. All every two weeks now with weekly water changes of 40-50%

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    How much of the dry ferts are you adding? What is your CO2 concentration?
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    If you are at around 3wpg you may not be fertilizing often enough. If one of the nutrients is used up before the others (ie nitrate is usually used up quickly), plants won't be able to take advantage of the rest of the fertilizers, but algae will.

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    for my 110g i'm dosing 1/2tsp trace, .75 tsp nitrates, 1tbl potassium

    That brings my nitrates up from around 0 to about 10ppm


    and i have no clue what my CO2 is at ppm wise. I'd say about 30ppm since my pH at night rises from around 7-7.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNISHER VETTE
    ...and i have no clue what my CO2 is at ppm wise. I'd say about 30ppm since my pH at night rises from around 7-7.8.
    low/unstable Co2 will definitely cause Algae woes. Getting a drop checker and using 4dkh water will give you a better gauge as to your Co2 levels.
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    sae's are very unfaithful algae eaters, themore fish food they eat the less algae they eat. Oto's are good algae eaters but they tend to be short lived. Seriously, a pack of snails will get that algae under control. I have pond snails and trumpet snails, although im not a snail person and I accidentally got them in my tank, they do an awesome job on the algae. I barely notice my pond snails but the trumpet snails are annoying, they produce dozens and dozens of baby trumpets at a time. On a boring day I've counted over 30 baby trumpet snails in my 20g substrate. I prefer the pond snails much better. Amano shrimp are second to a huge pack of snails in my book
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    sae's are very unfaithful algae eaters, themore fish food they eat the less algae they eat.
    This is different form my experiences. I can see how it could happen if they are overfed, but the two sae I have seem to be grazing the whole day, on moss, algae, fish food, veggies... They eat every waking moment.

    I would first ID the type of algae you have. No algae eater eats all types of algae, so it would be useful to have a confirmed ID before you decide on a specie versus the other.

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    If one of the nutrients is used up before the others (ie nitrate is usually used up quickly), plants won't be able to take advantage of the rest of the fertilizers, but algae will.
    Respectfully, this isn't correct. The only way plants will not be able to take advantage of fertilizers is if there is not enough CO2. Plants can use one element even if another is not present, this is how plants end up with nutrient deficiencies.
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    Actually I don't think it's incorrect. If for example, you removed po4 from your dosing you'd notice uptake of all other nutrients to slow down. But it's sleepy time. I'll type more tomorrow.

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    If you statement is correct then there would be no such thing as a plant having a single nutirent deficiency, they would show the signs of all of them, however that is not the case. I can have a plant that is short on only potassium, or Iron, orboron, or any number of different nutrients.
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