treating ick in scaleless fish.

**William** · 04-28-2008, 10:21 AM

I recommend everybody to read the article treating ich/ick in scaleless fish by Jb to learn more about treating scaleless fish.

**LORENZO** · 11-28-2008, 11:50 PM

I just spotted this article you recommended. I have been successful with Aquirisol (can't spell tonight) but it does work. I used it one time on clowns. Have you ever heard of Super Cure Ick? Just wondering if that had traces of copper in it?

**Mvjnz** · 11-29-2008, 09:34 AM

I always just use heat treatment. Works perfectly on every fish I've tried it on.

**LORENZO** · 11-29-2008, 11:00 AM

What did you put the heat up to? I know clowns can take 84-86 but little fish such as herry barbs con't. ARe cories okay in 82 i am sure they are. I will keep this in mind. Now the cyle for ick is usually a week so you just leave the heat up for that amount of time?

**Mvjnz** · 11-29-2008, 01:20 PM

32 degrees celsius.

I've used that on fish which aren't supposed to tolerate heat well, such as goldfish and pakistani loaches, and it never bothered them.

**frank_zappa** · 02-21-2009, 07:11 PM

hello, i am currently heat-salt-treating 10 and a 46 gallon tanks....

the heater in my 10 gallon is a 50 watt and does not seem to want to get above 85....i could put the light on perhaps but i wanted to leave it off. (6 tiger barbs)

the heater in my 46 gallon is 150 watts and i am now at 84 and i think still rising. (3 cories, 3 zebra danios, 2 serpae tetra, 1 rainbow shark)

please, could you tell me if these heaters are capable of raising my water temp in both tanks to 88 degrees, or even 86? should i buy a larger heater, or do i just need to wait and let it rise? im pretty sure the 10 gallon temp isnt going up any further and it is pinned.

i have another thread detailing everything ive been doing to treat this so far.

**Wild Turkey** · 02-21-2009, 07:20 PM

You dont use the Mj's heat treatment with the salt treatment. If you are treating with salt, 84 is fine and is exactly where i would want my temp for speeding up the life cycle.

88-90 degrees is not tolerable to most fish, the only reason i would even consider raising my heat that high for ich is a last resort, as 88 has the ability to kill a lot of fish. I think 88 degress for a goldfish over medicine and an airstone is a gung-ho way of dealing with it and you are risking other fish getting sick or dying just from being so far out of their optimal temperature.

Im pretty sure we had someone with pandas loose them via this method. And they are a great example of a fish that will die at 88 degrees. Max temp for them is around 75.

**frank_zappa** · 03-15-2009, 01:03 AM

the ich problem has been gone now for a couple of weeks and i am finally past all of that. i definitely preferred the salt and raised temp method as opposed to the use of the rid-ich

**Lady Hobbs** · 03-19-2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by William

I recommend everybody to read the article treating ich/ick in scaleless fish by Jb to learn more about treating scaleless fish.

Wish more people would read this and just use the half doses of Ick Quard. Ick Quard11 (for sensitive fish) is also available now which is probably about the same as using the half doses.

I'm reading more and more articles that scaleless fish do not tolerate the salt treatments well at all. Because we are "used to" doing things one way does not mean it's the best way.

**Crispy** · 03-19-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lady Hobbs

Wish more people would read this and just use the half doses of Ick Quard. Ick Quard11 (for sensitive fish) is also available now which is probably about the same as using the half doses.

I'm reading more and more articles that scaleless fish do not tolerate the salt treatments well at all. Because we are "used to" doing things one way does not mean it's the best way.

I agree LH. I have 8 scaleless fish in my tank and have successfully gotten rid of ich with the "half-dose"/waterchange method without a single loss. Infact, it's worked a few times over the years.