Poison Arrow Frogs in a vibrarium

**Sinnbox** · 02-03-2008, 05:26 AM

Vibrarium...did i get that right? I'm planning on building a tank this summer that will have a land area for frogs and newts, and a water area for Fish. Has anyone here ever had a similar tank?

My main question here, is can i put Poison Arrow Frogs, and fish together? or should i just stick to a more common toad/frog?

**cocoa_pleco** · 02-03-2008, 05:30 AM

PJ's stores do that here, they get a 100g and make 75% of it land for toads and in the water they have guppies and corys.

im not sure about those frogs but if you got some firebelly toads it can be done

**swales** · 02-03-2008, 05:39 AM

I think you mean vivarium.

Any more details on your plans?

**cocoa_pleco** · 02-03-2008, 05:55 AM

isnt vivarium for birds?

**Sinnbox** · 02-03-2008, 06:41 AM

The plans are still being put together, so far i have the basic idea, but i will ahve to buy the tank before i have teh final plan, it all depends on tank size, i am thinking of keeping it small say a 55 gal for the first tank if it works good i may move up to a 100g-200g when i finaly own my own home. I am planning on basing it on a tank that my 5th grade teacher had, It was sectioned in to "pools" and there was a curent flowing through the whole tank. she had a small platform in the rear of the tank that had some newts. I am planning on having a large platform that will be close to the leangth of the tank that will also have a recess under it so there will be plenty of room for the fish and also some shelter where they can hide. once i get some plans drawn up that don't look like a 3rd grader drew them ill post some pics of the plans so people can critiqe them. I have read on some other sites about glues/plastics that are safe to use in an aquarium so i am planning on creating the inserts my self. That should save money, and look better than the ones available for purchase. I am planning on purchasing a 55 gal tank from a local salvation army so if i screw it up I wont have wasted alot of cash. what do you guys think about purchasing used tanks? let me know what you think, positive or negative.

**jbeining75** · 02-03-2008, 06:42 AM

vivarium = a place to keep plants or animals to observe or conduct research........

**Fishguy2727** · 02-04-2008, 02:23 AM

Viquarium, aquaterrarium, vivarium, paludarium, we know what you mean.

You can keep the two together, but poison dart frogs are a tough group of frogs to keep in general. There are ways to setup a false bottom so you can have water under the land. Most poison dart frog setups are setup specifically for them, which in general omits other animals.

**Sinnbox** · 02-04-2008, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Fishguy2727

Viquarium, aquaterrarium, vivarium, paludarium, we know what you mean.

You can keep the two together, but poison dart frogs are a tough group of frogs to keep in general. There are ways to setup a false bottom so you can have water under the land. Most poison dart frog setups are setup specifically for them, which in general omits other animals.

So I'm thinking I should stick to firebelly toads's and then create a Poison dart terarium in the future when im more experienced. What would you guys say?

**Fishguy2727** · 02-04-2008, 11:26 AM

Definitely. Go all out with firebelly toads and then it will be a small step up to an all out poison dart frog terrarium. And the fire bellies will be more forgiving of the mistakes inexperience will dictate you will make at some point or another. They are also much cheaper.