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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpt84
    http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...82&pcatid=4882

    I'm prolly going to have black gravel with Laterite (granular form) and a small sand pit on the side for cory. I'm going to grow java fern/moss because I have a lot of driftwood. Later on (when I have more money) I'll upgrade the light and add a DIY co2 system.

    This prolly a silly question but what are peat?
    not silly at all, Peat moss

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    Ok here is my spin on the subject.Like everyone else has said there is no substrate that will lower ph,your lights are insufficient for anything but java ferns and moss.Here is what you will need to do to have a decently planted tank.I will only recomend what I have tried myself or I know from observation.
    1:You will simply have to have more light,100watts is good 150 is better.Truly if you are unwilling to spend the money on good lighting then plants are not for you.
    2:CO2 injection is wonderful,but unless you are going with high light[200watts]it is unneccasary,seachem excel will give all the co2 you will need.{its a liquid co2]
    3:You can get away with 2 maybe 1 bag of seachem fluorite with fine river gravel[torpedo beach] and not have to worry about having a sand beach for your corys,mine love it and are doing great.
    4:to lower your ph and KH a fine product for that is seachem acid buffer used in concert with kent "true PH minus"You will have to do it at every water change as I do but the results are great.You can easily obtain a ph of 6.8-7.2 and keep your KH in the 3-5 range.BTW KH is carbonate hardness and is the most important hardness level to worry about ,keep it low and you will be fine.Whatever product you choose make certain it does not contain phosphate as that will cause problems with algae .Your driftwood ph lowering affect will be minimal,the big piece in my tank did very little,possibly .2 lower.There is another way to lower your ph drastically and that is to use oak leaves directly in the water,however they have a darkening affect and they do cause a mess.
    5:After you have done all of the above you will want to concern yourself with ferts such as ,cheleated iron,pottasium,trace compounds,nitrogen and possibly phosphorous if you water is otherwise devoid of it.
    6:testing kits,for the above compounds.
    Good luck in whatever path you proceed,planted tanks are beautiful but like all things of beauty they are a pain in the A#@.
    Last edited by smaug; 12-27-2007 at 11:02 PM.

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    Wheweee!!! Well spoken smaug!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smaug
    Ok here is my spin on the subject.Like everyone else has said there is no substrate that will lower ph,your lights are insufficient for anything but java ferns and moss.Here is what you will need to do to have a decently planted tank.I will only recomend what I have tried myself or I know from observation.
    1:You will simply have to have more light,100watts is good 150 is better.Truly if you are unwilling to spend the money on good lighting then plants are not for you.
    2:CO2 injection is wonderful,but unless you are going with high light[200watts]it is unneccasary,seachem excel will give all the co2 you will need.{its a liquid co2]
    3:You can get away with 2 maybe 1 bag of seachem fluorite with fine river gravel[torpedo beach] and not have to worry about having a sand beach for your corys,mine love it and are doing great.
    4:to lower your ph and KH a fine product for that is seachem acid buffer used in concert with kent "true PH minus"You will have to do it at every water change as I do but the results are great.You can easily obtain a ph of 6.8-7.2 and keep your KH in the 3-5 range.BTW KH is carbonate hardness and is the most important hardness level to worry about ,keep it low and you will be fine.Whatever product you choose make certain it does not contain phosphate as that will cause problems with algae .Your driftwood ph lowering affect will be minimal,the big piece in my tank did very little,possibly .2 lower.There is another way to lower your ph drastically and that is to use oak leaves directly in the water,however they have a darkening affect and they do cause a mess.
    5:After you have done all of the above you will want to concern yourself with ferts such as ,cheleated iron,pottasium,trace compounds,nitrogen and possibly phosphorous if you water is otherwise devoid of it.
    6:testing kits,for the above compounds.
    Good luck in whatever path you proceed,planted tanks are beautiful but like all things of beauty they are a pain in the A#@.
    Awesome post!! thanks a lot, this helps tons.

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    Yea, I'm going to mix laterite and gravel. For now I'm just going to keep fern and moss. I'm on a limited budget. Later on I'll upgrade my light and add other plant.

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    thats a good decision.Fern and moss will be fine with that setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smaug
    planted tanks are beautiful but like all things of beauty they are a pain in the A#@.

    lol.. aint that the truth.

    I see beautiful cars, beautiful houses, and beautiful women and the more beautiful they are the more work you will need to put in... just to maintain it that way. (sorry girls, I know you are not all like that)

    I have spent 5 years working like a dog on our house and it looks fantastic but to think that in a few years it will need its make up done again. I cant bare the thought of doing all that work again. Sell the damn thing. Give me a low maintenance house any day. They look so much more attractive than they used to.... lol!

    Sorry to hijack this thread...

    very good info there smaug!!

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    I agree, but the final product is so worth it.

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    you totally took the word out of my mouth
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