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    In my 40g I have a Tiger Shovelnose Catfish at about 5 1/2-6”. I also had a longnose Gar at about 4-4”. They had been in the tank together for over 2 weeks. Well yesterday morning I left the house and the Gar was in the tank. When I got back home 2 1/2 hours later the Gar was no were to be seen. I looked around the tank to no avail. The only explanation is it was eaten by the Tiger Shovelnose Catfish.

    First Longnose gar I bought at 4” I put in the 180g was eaten by my spotted Gar the first week. Second Longnose Gar bought at 4” I killed the first day because I forgot to remove the Chlorine in the 40g and the third I put in the 40g probably was eaten by the Catfish. I’m not buying anymore Longnose unless it’s at least 10”.
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    1- 14" Spotted Gar

    40 gallon Breeder grow out tank:
    1- 6” Tiger Shovelnose Catfish

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    The shovelnose is way too much fish for a 40G, let alone thinking about adding a gar to the mix. Why buy such expensive fish and then not take care of them?

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    I was putting both of them in the 40g to grow them out. In October I’m upgrading the 180 to a 300g wide. What you see in my Signature is what I have in the 180g. I have/had plans to add the Catfish fish and Longnose Gar along with my current 180g stock in the 300g and no further stocking after that in the 300g.
    180 Gallon:
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    1- Mantilla hybrid Stingray
    1- Black Henlei/Leopoldi hybrid Stingray
    1- 14" Spotted Gar

    40 gallon Breeder grow out tank:
    1- 6” Tiger Shovelnose Catfish

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydragonlady View Post
    The shovelnose is way too much fish for a 40G, let alone thinking about adding a gar to the mix. Why buy such expensive fish and then not take care of them?
    The well-being of fish doesn't seem to be a priority with the OP

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    I wouldn't keep gar in a 40G even to grow them out it is much too shallow and gar are jumpers. Shovelnose grow fast and a 6 inches long is already almost to big for the 40G breeder. A breeder is only about 36ื18ื16.

    I also question if all of these fish can live happily together in a 300G. A 300G typically has a smaller floor plan which will be packed with so many bottom dwelling species, especially since your list includes some aggressive and/or poisoness species.

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    That makes me sad. Poor pea puffer.

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    300g wide 6’ L x 27”H x 3’W. Also the Tiger Shovelnose has plenty of run in the 40g breeder.

    Regular 300g 9’L x2’Hx2’W
    Last edited by freshwaterfishlover; 07-07-2019 at 07:40 PM.
    180 Gallon:
    1-Motoro Stingray
    1- Mantilla hybrid Stingray
    1- Black Henlei/Leopoldi hybrid Stingray
    1- 14" Spotted Gar

    40 gallon Breeder grow out tank:
    1- 6” Tiger Shovelnose Catfish

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    This is the tank and Tiger Shovelnose Catfish

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    I know someone is going to make a comment about the low water. I’m in the middle of a water change.
    180 Gallon:
    1-Motoro Stingray
    1- Mantilla hybrid Stingray
    1- Black Henlei/Leopoldi hybrid Stingray
    1- 14" Spotted Gar

    40 gallon Breeder grow out tank:
    1- 6” Tiger Shovelnose Catfish

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    Both a 300 gallon and 300 gallon wide have pretty much the same floor area.

    300 wide (96Lx30Wx24T) vs 300 tall (96Lx24Wx30T)

    Wide = 96"ื30" = 2880 sq in
    Tall = 96"ื24" = 2304 sq in

    A wide only gives 6 extra in of depth which is not a lot when you have a bottom dwelling catfish that can get over 40" long. That fish is longer that the tank is wide. It won't be able to turn around. Same with the spotted gar (36") and the long nose gar (which can grow to an amazing 5 to 6 FEET).

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    No. I’m buying a 300g that is 6’L x 27”H x 3’W. Most Shovelnose don’t grow over 2-2 1/2 feet.
    Last edited by freshwaterfishlover; 07-07-2019 at 08:23 PM.
    180 Gallon:
    1-Motoro Stingray
    1- Mantilla hybrid Stingray
    1- Black Henlei/Leopoldi hybrid Stingray
    1- 14" Spotted Gar

    40 gallon Breeder grow out tank:
    1- 6” Tiger Shovelnose Catfish

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