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    Good afternoon all, I'm a fairly experienced fish keeper who's doing a friend a favor and rescuing a dumpster fire of a "community" tank they and their housemates have had running for apparently quite some time. It's a 35 Hex, and in addition to a fairly respectable mix of tetras and barbs, they seem to have not one but two archerfish, a goby of some kind I think, and what looks like a featherfin squeaker. The barbs and tetras are easy enough, I have a 250 community with all small fish (and indeed have both gold and tiger barbs already, as you'll see in the pictures), once they're out of quarantine they can go right into my main setup.

    The "oddballs" are the issue. I know most archerfish are brackish, which isn't a real technical challenge for me I just need clarification on species to make sure these are one of the brackish species. They've been in fresh water all this time so I would imagine I need to gradually up the salinity once I've re-homed them. Some specific ID on the goby (which are mostly brackish too, I would think, confirmation would be good here?) and confirmation the last fish is a featherfin squeaker would also help. I'm hoping I can setup the archers and goby in a 55 I can setup as a brackish tank and then just add dither fish to or whatever as the tank cycles. The squeaker would probably not go in my main tank, too big (and there'd be territorial fights with my kribs), but as a short term before I can rehome it/re-cycle their hex for it I'd deal.

    Anyway, here's links for the pictures I got sent I've been using for ID work, some confirmation would be helpful. If I confirm the needs of the brackish I'll jump down to the brackish board and get specific setup advice from them. Thanks for advance for your advice and by all means if I stuck this in the wrong forum please move it, I didn't see a general-enough forum to drop this in (It's been a while since I was an active poster here)

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hfB...ew?usp=sharing
    Best side-on view of one of the archers. You can see the goldies and the tigers, which are easy-peasy for me to re-home.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ERl...ew?usp=sharing
    Squeaker? and Goby???

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/17CZ...ew?usp=sharing
    Primarily another shot of the Archers.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hyx...ew?usp=sharing
    Mostly for goby body purposes? Is that what I'm dealing with here or is it something else?
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    I think not goby but bichir... not brackish, @Rocksor would know for sure.
    http://www.tropicalfishsite.com/sene...rus-senegalus/

    First image looks like Leopard Ctenopoma to me. Not brackish either.
    https://absolutelyfish.com/leopard-c...ish-character/
    https://www.seriouslyfish.com/specie...a-acutirostre/

    The featherfin looks to be correct to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boundava View Post
    I think not goby but bichir... not brackish, @Rocksor would know for sure.
    http://www.tropicalfishsite.com/sene...rus-senegalus/

    First image looks like Leopard Ctenopoma to me. Not brackish either.
    https://absolutelyfish.com/leopard-c...ish-character/
    https://www.seriouslyfish.com/specie...a-acutirostre/

    The featherfin looks to be correct to me.


    Wow, good eye, I think you're dead-on. A bichir would be a....project but I guess I can keep it in the 55 in the short term and it's still a big improvement over where it's at now. I'm completely fine with NOT getting a brackish setup, I just thought they were Archers that needed it.

    I appreciate the help and yes, will take any and all suggestions. The ctenopoma and croaker are both Central Africaish too, interesting. Maybe a Central African biotope is in the future.
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    you have a couple predators and potentially medium sized fish (6"-9"). With a 55g, I wouldn't add any more than the 3, senagal, ctenopoma, and featherfin. Get used to doing enough water changes to keep the nitrates at less than 20ppm.

    You could do a planted tank with mini lettuce, vallisenira (sp?), and anubias

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    My 250 has enough java moss and frogbit to literally choke an elephant, so in the short term I'll move some of it over to help with the nitrates. As for water changes, there's a reason I have a slop sink ten feet from the main tank, for all it almost never actually needs one. Some benefit to wildly out of control plant growth and small fish in that large a volume of water, I suppose. I figure if I put a big enough can on it to filter things it'll help too. I'm fine keeping this as a cool oddball tank with just the four fish, I have the big guy for "Lots of pretty little fish doing their thing and living their lives".
    "Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Numbers"
    -250 Planted Community: Angel, Rainbowfish, Zebras, Harlequin Rasboras, Cherry Barbs, Tiger Barbs, Gold Barbs, a large mixed school of cories, BN Plecos, Various inverts, and a mated pair of Kribs (and whatever of their progney I haven't gotten rid of yet)
    -10 Growout tank: Currently home to some cory fry, snails, and red cherry shrimp

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