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    Quote Originally Posted by steelo View Post
    Absolutely true and the API test is EXTREMELY hard to read between 4 and 8 ppm...I think 1-2 ppm is probably a safe bet. I'm curious though, I added the bio rings last night to my filter by just dumping them behind the filter media and a few inside the intake. Is there a 'correct' way to do this? I would think it's okay as long as they're located in a spot where they can build up bacteria...
    INSIDE the filter is the best place for bio rings....ceramic ones, I presume?
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    That's funny, I actually read that a few weeks ago and believe me, I freaked out when I saw it. What's strange is that according to his post, he read right on the label that it contained surfactant and it had suds when shaken up. Both my wife and I read over the label 3-4 times and all it listed was water and ammonia. I'm hopeful that maybe since this post was a few years old, that maybe they changed their ingredients.

    I looked around at a few stores and the ones that had surfactants or scents definitely fizzed up whenever I shook it, this wal-mart brand really doesn't do that other than some air bubbles...
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    Yes, they are the Fluval brand ceramic 'bio rings' =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelo View Post
    That's funny, I actually read that a few weeks ago and believe me, I freaked out when I saw it. What's strange is that according to his post, he read right on the label that it contained surfactant and it had suds when shaken up. Both my wife and I read over the label 3-4 times and all it listed was water and ammonia. I'm hopeful that maybe since this post was a few years old, that maybe they changed their ingredients.

    I looked around at a few stores and the ones that had surfactants or scents definitely fizzed up whenever I shook it, this wal-mart brand really doesn't do that other than some air bubbles...
    Indeed, they could have changed the ingredients over time...it sounds like you've done everything right, just needed a few minor adjustments (like the temp)...but any time a cycle stalls like this, I always blame the ammonia first, lol

    Do you have an Ace hardware nearby?...this is the stuff most of us use, and I know it works, cycled 5 tanks with it

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    I've had tanks take this long to cycle so I wouldn't be worried yet. It sucks having to wait to add fish, but it really reduces fish loss, or all of the work that goes into keeping your fish safe when cycling a tank with fish in it.

    Ace hardware industrial ammonia has worked for many people on this forum, and if you have any doubts at all about what you are using then i would removed the water from your tank and clean everything really well. Then switch to the Ace brand if you have one around
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    Unfortunately, they all went out of business where we live =( That would have been my very first choice if it was available here in Kentucky
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    That's too bad...maybe consider this?...you'd have to drain the tank, and start over...........https://www.amazon.com/DrTims-Aquati.../dp/B006MP4QG6

    If not, for now, get the temp up to 82F or so and wait it out...do not trust test "strips", rely on your liquid test kit
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    Thanks, I'm going to give it another 2-3 weeks before I go as far as draining it...draining 45 gallons with a 1 gallon bucket=not fun

    I definitely would go the Dr. Tims route with TSS afterwards if I did that
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelo View Post
    Absolutely true and the API test is EXTREMELY hard to read between 4 and 8 ppm...I think 1-2 ppm is probably a safe bet. I'm curious though, I added the bio rings last night to my filter by just dumping them behind the filter media and a few inside the intake. Is there a 'correct' way to do this? I would think it's okay as long as they're located in a spot where they can build up bacteria...
    just needs to have water flow through it

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    Good deal...I placed the majority of them inside of the power filter behind the filter pad and put a few in the bottom of the intake tube.

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