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    I've read some varying information in regards to water conditioners and need some clarification. I have had different answers regarding this question/topic, from experienced hobbyists and reputable sources. Please help.

    I was watching a video from Aquarium Co-Op who claimed that standard water conditioners (the ones that don't temporarily neutralize Ammonia/Nitrite), create Ammonia when they break down chloramine found in some tap water. And thus, it is "required" to use a conditioner that neutralizes Ammonia if you have Chloramine in your tap. How true is this?

    My logic of thinking is that the Bio-filtration (BB) in the tank will process any Ammonia that is created, thus negating the "issue". And I can't imagine that much Ammonia is created when Chloramine is broken down. I have Seachem Prime and Tetra AquaSafe Plus (which doesn't bond to Ammonia). I only use Prime in the event I see an Ammonia/Nitrite spike, and use the AquaSafe plus for normal water changes. I have Chloramine in my tap.

    Also, when Seachem Prime bonds to the Ammonia for 24 hours, is Beneficial Bacteria able to consume that Ammonia? Or is the bacteria essentially being starved for those 24 hours?

    I hope I worded everything okay. Reading it all back, it all sounds kinda awkward. The TL;DR is this- Some claim water conditioners break down Chloramine into Ammonia, and thus the water conditioner also needs to bond/neutralize the ammonia in order to prevent an Ammonia spike. This is coming from Cory at Aquarium CoOp, btw.

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    Welcome to the AC.

    Read the FAQ section at the bottom of the page here: https://www.seachem.com/prime.php

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    " Prime® does not remove ammonia, nitrite, or nitrate from the system. It simply binds with those compounds making them harmless to the inhabitants and still bioavailable to the beneficial bacteria."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Welcome to the AC.

    Read the FAQ section at the bottom of the page here: https://www.seachem.com/prime.php

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    " Prime® does not remove ammonia, nitrite, or nitrate from the system. It simply binds with those compounds making them harmless to the inhabitants and still bioavailable to the beneficial bacteria."
    Okay so that answers the question of if the bacteria are starved when using Prime. But is it necessary to use a conditioner that binds to Ammonia when adding tap water that had Chloramine?

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    Yes, because chloramine minus chlorine = ammonia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Yes, because chloramine minus chlorine = ammonia
    Okay, I mean it makes sense. I have Seachem Prime, and the Tetra conditioner. Thank you

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    More than welcome.

    I only use Prime, with 100% success rate, no need for other conditioners, IME.
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