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Thread: Finally!

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    For all those who have answered my posts and given advice through the past months after I somehow wrecked my tank.
    This am, I had both nitrites and nitrates!

    I still had a dark green on ammonia, so I ask this. When using prime, I know it still shows up on the ammonia test, but does it effect the nitrites and nitrates as well?

    Thanks all!
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    Prime detoxes it for 24-48 hours but doesn't remove it (Ammonia, nitrIte and nitrAte) and yes they still show on test results for moat test kits. The API master test kit that most people use, yes it still reads it.. Personally I'm unaware of any that dotty but have read information indicating some may not read them after detox.

    Keep dosing and doing what you're doing sounds like you are on the right track! Congrats!

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    Congrats marc!!! I'm so happy you're finally seeing the next process in the nitrogen cycle. You can add sodium chloride to protect against nitrite poisoning (1 teaspoon of dissolved salt per 10 gallons.) Salt does not evaporate, it stays in the water until you change it out via WCs so if you add sea kosher salt, only add more for water removed. When it's time to remove completely, simply water change it out. It's best to add salt slowly, over a couple days to not change the chemistry too quickly.

    There are some tests that only measure free ammonia.
    (seachem ammno dot) or both (seachem multitest ammonia kit)
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    Dosing the entire tank
    every 24 hours should not really be necessary, as it will remain active for up to 48 hours.
    Even when bound to Prime, the ammonia will provide enough of a food source for the beneficial bacteria to survive and reproduce. Using Prime during cycling will not starve off any bacterial colonies, and there will still be a sufficient food source.
    Prime converts ammonia into a complexed imidium salt. This salt is a nitrogenous compound that can still be utilized by aerobic bacteria. In the same way they consume ammonia, these bacteria consume the imidium salt and release nitrite as a byproduct. Prime will also bind with nitrite and nitrate, however, it will not prevent bacteria from consuming these compounds as well. Unfortunately, while we have researched it extensively in our laboratory, I do not have any documents that I can provide you as proof. However, if you wanted to test this, it would be very simple and could be done by treating tap water containing chloramine with Prime and adding it to an established aquarium. Also add a Seachem Ammonia Alert to give continuous free ammonia readings. Prime will break the chloramine bond, leaving behind ammonia. Unlike other water conditioners it will then bind to the ammonia, producing a non-toxic imidium salt. At this point you will see a 0.0 ammonia reading on the Ammonia Alert. After 24 hours, begin checking the Ammonia Alert every 30 minutes or so. After 24 hours, Prime will start to become inactive and if it is still binding any ammonia, it will begin to release it. If this is the case, the Ammonia Alert will begin changing color, giving you a reading for free ammonia.
    *taken from Prime Q&A
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    You can immediately add 1 teaspoon of salt per 10 gallons, since this is relatively a small increase in TDS. When adding 1 teaspoon of salt per gallon, it would be best to be done over an 8-16 hour period (assuming you sleep 8 hours a day). If the eventual goal is to reach 1 tablespoon or more per gallon, at a minimum, I would add that total amount in no less than 3 days (e.g. treatment of ich)

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    Thanks Rocksor. I'm too prudent about changing water parameters in soft water (what I'm familiar with).
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    Until I came here, I never realized you could add salt to fresh water aquariums. Probably more natural than throwing other things in!

    Yes, there are fish in the tank. I didn't want to cycle with them in, but had no choice. The short tale is that I had a fully cycling tank which I had done fishless, changed out the water which was high in nitrates on the night prior to the fish arriving. They had come by plane, I had no way to send them back or another tank. Not something I was happy about.

    Thank you for the tip on the free ammonia test. That should give me a better idea of how things are going.

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    Totally ok for your fish. It will raise Total Dissolved Solids, but your fish prefer hard water. If you have softened water, (and I really don't know much about it) the water is most likely naturally hard and softened with salts, adding to the TDS. So not really softening the water...
    Might be worth looking into for your own info. I'm not sure if all water softeners are the same. Some may be RO units, in that case, the water IS softened, TDS reduced to almost nothing and additional salts and minerals would have to be added to remineralize water.
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    i can find a bag of what ever the water is softened with. Usually, I try to replace the calcium and manesium with seecham's product. Since the tap water comes out of the faucet at about 8.4, and that is after going through the water softener, it is probably incredibly high before hand.

    Before this, i just associated hard water being easier to rinse off soap in the water, while softened water makes it more difficult. Other than that, I'd never given it thought until i started the fish business.

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