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    Over a month ago, I started a new 55 gallon tank. I started a fishless cycle by adding drops of ammonia until I was at about 5 ppm. I added Tetra Safe Start to the tank to get it going and ammonia and nitrites dropped to zero and nitrates increased. I continued to add ammonia during the month every time it dropped to zero.
    After this continued for a month, water tests showed there was zero ammonia, zero nitrites and a ton of nitrates. At this time though, i found out one of my four-legged pets needed surgery so decided to hold on bringing in new fish in order to keep his healing as stress free as possible. I added two small bundles of fish food to the tank to continue to feed the bacteria.
    So my tank was able to cycle for a few extra weeks. His surgery went well and I decided to do my large water change this past weekend. I tested water again and ammonia and nitrites were at zero and nitrates were even higher than they were at the one month mark, all signs pointing to the tank successfully cycling. I did my 75% water change and added two more food pouches to the tank to feed bacteria until fish are placed in the tank (few pinches of food inside cloth, same as first two pouches.) Four days after the water change, ammonia is reading 0.25ppm, not a huge change but odd since it was at zero.
    Is this normal after doing the large water change or did I mess up somewhere in the process? I am nervous about putting fish in if there is a chance I messed up the cycling process.

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    You may have had a slight die off of the bacteria since you don't know how much ammonia the food pouches were producing.

    I just started cycling my 75 and didn't realize that the filter had ammonia removing sponges in it. In 2 days my dosed 4 ppm went to 2 ppm, so I just made up the difference by re dosing the tank and additional 2 ppm. The tanks wasn't cycled so I am unsure if something like this would work for you.
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    As stated above, using food to produce ammonia can be tricky, it is almost impossible to know how much ammonia the rotting food produces.

    I would dose up to 1 ppm pure ammonia, and test again in 24 hours...you're probably going to see a mini cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boundava View Post
    You may have had a slight die off of the bacteria since you don't know how much ammonia the food pouches were producing.

    I just started cycling my 75 and didn't realize that the filter had ammonia removing sponges in it. In 2 days my dosed 4 ppm went to 2 ppm, so I just made up the difference by re dosing the tank and additional 2 ppm. The tanks wasn't cycled so I am unsure if something like this would work for you.
    Ok, that is true, the pouches are not too big but no way to measure what they are releasing unfortunately. I did check though to make sure when I started that there were no ammonia removers in the filters. I may have to switch back to adding ammonia drops and add another dose of Safe Start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    As stated above, using food to produce ammonia can be tricky, it is almost impossible to know how much ammonia the rotting food produces.

    I would dose up to 1 ppm pure ammonia, and test again in 24 hours...you're probably going to see a mini cycle.
    Ok, perfect! Thanks! Will pull those food pouches out today then and add pure ammonia instead. Hopefully the pouches didn't do too much damage to the cycle.

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    I hope its a quick fix for you! Hope your furry friend is doing well.
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    The food pouches shouldn't have messed up the cycle much, if at all....just follow the fishless cycle instructions until you are seeing 0 amm, 0 trItes, and some trAtes, after waiting 24 hours from dosing...should be just fine
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    Awesome, thanks again!
    And yes, the surgery went very well. The vet had found cancer in his leg which was why it was so sudden. I figured bringing fish in would make him want to walk around and check everything out when he was supposed to be resting and staying off his feet. They got all the cancer out though and he is healing so very happy

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    Great news i am happy for all of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CometD View Post
    Awesome, thanks again!
    And yes, the surgery went very well. The vet had found cancer in his leg which was why it was so sudden. I figured bringing fish in would make him want to walk around and check everything out when he was supposed to be resting and staying off his feet. They got all the cancer out though and he is healing so very happy
    Glad he's doing better...dog, cat, other?
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