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Thread: I've had it

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    You can use both Seachem Matrix Carbon and Seachem Purigen. There is an overlap of what they bind, and there are more things that bind with carbon. I would use one HOB to remove large particulate matter with things like poly-fil, and then use the other HOB to remove things that make the smell, using carbon and purigen. You can leave the biological duties to your canister.

    Once things warm up, use water that does not go through the water softener and see if there is a difference in water quality.
    Last edited by Rocksor; 04-17-2018 at 02:09 PM.

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    You can use both Seachem Matrix Carbon and Seachem Purigen. There is an overlap of what they bind, and there are more things that bind with carbon.
    Hmm, didn't know that. I was always told Purigen was 500 times more effective than carbon. Anyways, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    Hmm, didn't know that. I was always told Purigen was 500 times more effective than carbon. Anyways, thanks.
    Btw, I'm repeating what my fish store guy told me, I know it's an ignorant statement with no sustenance, I've actually hit the rabbit hole searching for info on this lol.
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    Capacity: Purigen’s™ possesses enhanced capacity owing to its vast surface area. All other resins on the market are purely spherical extruded beads. These beads remain smooth even under a microscope. PurigenŽ is both spherical and macroreticular. It has microscopic pores that increase its usable surface area to many times that of a purely spherical resin.
    That could be why...not only does it have high surface area, but it is highly pours increasing the surface ares even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    Hmm, didn't know that. I was always told Purigen was 500 times more effective than carbon. Anyways, thanks.
    I think your LFS saw the Seachem video

    Quote Originally Posted by Boundava View Post
    That could be why...not only does it have high surface area, but it is highly pours increasing the surface ares even more.
    Reefers have looked more in depth at carbon vs purigen. What is boils down for them is what are you trying to primarily remove? It is organics or "other stuff" or "other stuff" and organics?

    http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...rigen-vs-renew

    Purigen will remove organic waste from the water. It has the capacity to remove other things as well, but will primarily remove organic waste.
    Carbon will remove a wide range of material from water
    http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...-what-when-why

    Though Purigen is less likely to remove the medication because it is an organic scavenging resin, it is better to be safe than sorry.
    http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...-hospital-tank

    The benefit of using Purigen over carbon is that it is not nearly as "indiscriminate" in its removal. Carbon also does remove nitrogenous waste, but the downside is that you will get some removal of beneficial elements as well (such as fertilizers, trace elements, etc.)
    Differences in carbon vs purigen (polymeric adsorbent)

    http://www.seachem.com/downloads/art...Filtration.pdf

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    If you have some spare tanks and a pump i would make a sump. Super easy. And for mechanical filtration use polyfill in first chamber and lava rock for bio, it's all over youtube. You can even use one of your hob as an over flow.

    What i did with my hob is install a prefilter on the intake tube. Than stuff the inside of the hob with media like ceramic rings just make sure it flows from the bottom to the top when I first tried it I noticed the flow was just hovering over the media so I added some filter pad to help Force the water down and then flow up the media.

    Also my system smelled once and it was food that collected around the tank frame over time. It smelled bad.

    I own a fx4. Thing is a champ. But ill never waste my money on a canister again diy sumps for life. You can even make one out of a 5 gallon bucket with external pump that's a lot of media compared to a 306 Fluval for half the price.

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    Not sure why you would even make a DIY canister, when a DIY sump with DIY trickle filter is vastly superior for the same effort and cost.
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    If your referring to the 5 gallon bucket you can make it a sump style is what i meant if space is an issue. 40 breeder so he can use 3/4 line come in from the side and be able to use the lid to help with evaporation. 1/2 lava rock with some polyfill on top.

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    This filter thing is driving me nuts. I have a whisper EX 70 and a whisper 40i both in my 40 gallon tank. They don't control odor well, need changing far sooner than the package insert says, and though the water looks clear, any time i move something in the tank, I get a cloud of junk from the bottom.

    I googled top rated filter and the fluval came in 2nd. The first runner was by description noisy. Amazon has a price of around $135 if I go with a filter that can handle 70 gallons. (I like to go higher than what my tank needs). I know that some of you really like the fluval, so i thought I would ask you where you purchased yours. It is a lot of money for a filter, but so is buying endless boxes of filter bags and the frustration of poor water quality. I'm not happy with the bioscrubbers either and they seem to just get covered with slime and not even begin to cycle after weeks of use.

    From what i've read here, the fluval sounds durable and gives the ability to add what you want to use as sources to grow BB on. Can I put the bioscrubbers somewhere in there to transfer any possible growth of BB from my present filters safely? The ones I have consist of silver dollar sized circles of hard plastic spikes.
    I'm really tired of having to mess with the filters all the time.

    I'll make it more specific.
    1)I have 10 cichlids, 1 petricola cat, 2 apple snails and 6 mystery snails
    2)substrate is varying sizes of gravel with tunnels and caves of natural rock and fake aquarium rock
    3)food is mainly pelleted with one or two crushed algae pellets and occasional plankton flake. I do give frozen brine shrimp once a week, and that tends to plug my filters if I don't clean the intake valve with a toothbrush every couple days
    4)where is the best place to order a fluval from
    5)none of my fish or snails are adults yet, will a fluval that goes up to 70 gallons
    be enough when they are grown? (All my fish come in the 4-5 inch category)
    5)is the bio filler that comes with the unit ok, or should I get something else?

    Much appreciated.
    If you like HOB filters, I had a really good experience with the aqueon 75 led. I actually still have 2 of them on my 125 gallon along with a sun sun 404B canister filter. I've had problems with the slime too and I think it was either over feeding or just to small of a filter for what I had it on. The more filtration the better I think. If you have a 40 gallon put one on that's good for 75 gallons. 425 gph I think

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