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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJedi View Post
    So looking at an Eheim Jager heater
    Of course it is your tank and your decision, but in case you might wish to hear another member's experience with this piece of equipment, I'll share mine.

    I have this heater. It was purchased when I first set up my tank, also after much research. It worked well when calibrated, but with the two separate parts of the dial, it was always confusing and wound up becoming un-calibrated easily (and often!). Calibrating it again became almost a continual struggle. Of course you might not have that same trouble.
    It is now my (quite expensive) backup heater. I replaced it in my tank with a Cobalt (neo-therm) and am very happy with this heater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiversGirl View Post
    Of course it is your tank and your decision, but in case you might wish to hear another member's experience with this piece of equipment, I'll share mine.

    I have this heater. It was purchased when I first set up my tank, also after much research. It worked well when calibrated, but with the two separate parts of the dial, it was always confusing and wound up becoming un-calibrated easily (and often!). Calibrating it again became almost a continual struggle. Of course you might not have that same trouble.
    It is now my (quite expensive) backup heater. I replaced it in my tank with a Cobalt (neo-therm) and am very happy with this heater.
    When looking at them I was thinking of going with the ehaim due to the quality of German manufacturing. Plus I'm still seeing reports of people having issues with the cobalt unless that really has been fixed and it's just the remnants.

    Also, looking at going with eco complete, trying to remember what the guy said I should also use from the LFS yesterday. He recommended some other type of substrate to put as a base layer with the eco complete over so there wouldn't be an acid drop. Anyone know what he means? Guy did seem to know what he was talking about, runs all the planted tanks at this place.

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    Riversgirl is not the only member here who is "less than enthused" with the Jagers, after using them...I'd never even give them a thought, it's dumb to have 2 dials to fool with when you can set a temp on pretty much any other heater with one click, and forget about it

    The problem you refer to with the Cobalts was fixed long ago...again, I recommend them, they'll be the only submersibles I ever use in my tanks that need one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Riversgirl is not the only member here who is "less than enthused" with the Jagers, after using them...I'd never even give them a thought, it's dumb to have 2 dials to fool with when you can set a temp on pretty much any other heater with one click, and forget about it

    The problem you refer to with the Cobalts was fixed long ago...again, I recommend them, they'll be the only submersibles I ever use in my tanks that need one
    Makes sense. Likely will go with the cobalt after having people (I've been lurking for a long time besides being joined, research while I had to wait) so I'll probably go with the cobalt. Ended up getting the Eheim 2215 as well after research, it's on the way to my house. Last night ended up getting the last piece of driftwood and a cover so it's coming along.

    Spreading out all this $$ to set it up, hope to have it set up sometime this summer. If I budgeted well I'll be able to get the heater this month too.

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    Excellent choices....I have an Eheim 2215 as well, and love it...they make awesome canister filters, and not-so-awesome heaters, lol

    Take your time, and do it right...you'll hear alot that "nothing good happens fast" in this hobby if you stick around here
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    Anyone know anything about the bottom substrate I mentioned above in post #22 by chance?

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    Lots of folks here use the Eco Complete, with great results...I prefer sand
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    By doing your research as you are, and by building slowly with intension, you are surely setting up things right! I'm excited for you and happy to be following along on your build.

    Regarding your substrate question, I use Pool Filter Sand in one tank and Black Diamond Blasting Sand in another. I'm happy with these choices.

    I would caution you, however, if you decide to use BDBS, read up on rinsing methods. (A drop of Dawn within your method is quite helpful) Be prepared to rinse and re-rinse. It was worth the effort for me personally, but I was surprised by how much rinsing was really required -- even after reading warnings.
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    I agree^^ I like how you are researching for yourself and budgeting and being patient. Those three attributes are very helpful when it comes to this hobby.

    I also have some Eheim jagers, lol, I still don't know how to calibrate. I'm just not confident I have done it correctly.

    My Eheim canister filters have been great for more than 8 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJedi View Post
    Anyone know anything about the bottom substrate I mentioned above in post #22 by chance?
    I have used Eco for many years (15+) but stand alone without anything mixed in... not sure if the lfs guy was talking about laterite, or a dirt bottom or something like ADA soil.

    Eco has a high cation exchange rate so helps move nutrient from water column to roots. The only time I added anything to the substrate was when I established a new tank. Then I would use the Flourish root tabs just to get the plants an extra boost to start. I had Eco in my 29 and upgraded to a 55, then upgraded to a 75. I have grown a lot of plants in it and only relatively recently (past 4 years) have a I been dabbling in CO2 and EI fertilization. Prior to that it was not additional fertilization or simply adding the Flourish comprehensive liquid fertilizer.

    Heres' the tank in July 2017...I don't have anything recent as we moved in October of 2017 and I still have the tank broken into tubs. The plants are currently in a tub with Eco, btw.

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    It was jam packed full of plants as I thought when we moved the basement would be priority 1 to get done and I anticipated diving the plants into multiple tanks when we moved.
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