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    Very easy. They're essentially just big buckets with a pump :)

    They reduce a lot of the clutter, if you have room under the tank or hidden off to the side. You won't have those big awkward HOB filters hanging off the side of the tank, just two discreet hoses going off to where the canister is hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluewaterBoof View Post
    Very easy. They're essentially just big buckets with a pump :)

    They reduce a lot of the clutter, if you have room under the tank or hidden off to the side. You won't have those big awkward HOB filters hanging off the side of the tank, just two discreet hoses going off to where the canister is hidden.
    I already have a stand that has doors and plenty of space beneath it, the back is open for cords. What would you recommend as a canister?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJedi View Post
    Never have used one before, don't know much about them, how to maintain them/etc.
    Maintenance is a bit more complicated with canisters than it is with HOB's, IME, but they aren't difficult to keep.

    Be sure to do a fishless cycle if you plan on adding all of these fish at once: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640

    I have shrimp in all of my tanks, with many different tetras, as well as loaches and other fish, and have had no issues with the shrimp being bothered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    I have shrimp in all of my tanks, with many different tetras, as well as loaches and other fish, and have had no issues with the shrimp being bothered.
    Tell that to my order of fancy blue dream rilis that were completely wiped out by my tetras in less than 12hrs I have to laugh about it or else I will break down in tear haha

    It's all about opportunity. If the shrimplets have places to hide they tend to be left alone, but most fish will seize the opportunity for a bit of shrimp cocktail if given the chance :) Adult shrimp are usually big enough to avoid becoming a snack, but the babies are easy noms.

    The only truly shrimp-safe fish out there are otocinclus, and even with those some folks catch their otos accidentally sucking up tiny shrimplets that happen to be in the way of their foraging.

    Neocaridina like cherries multiply like rabbits, so it's much easier to keep them in community tank settings along with omnivorous fish and not see a decline in population. The babies are being picked off, but usually not at a rate fast enough to keep up with the breeding. For every one baby being eaten, there are a handful of others that make it to safer sizes.

    Now if you were going to keep a more expensive species that doesn't breed as quickly, such as caridina, it is highly recommended to keep them in a shrimp-only tank with maybe some snails or otos for company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluewaterBoof View Post
    Tell that to my order of fancy blue dream rilis that were completely wiped out by my tetras in less than 12hrs I have to laugh about it or else I will break down in tear haha

    It's all about opportunity. If the shrimplets have places to hide they tend to be left alone, but most fish will seize the opportunity for a bit of shrimp cocktail if given the chance :) Adult shrimp are usually big enough to avoid becoming a snack, but the babies are easy noms.

    The only truly shrimp-safe fish out there are otocinclus, and even with those some folks catch their otos accidentally sucking up tiny shrimplets that happen to be in the way of their foraging.

    Neocaridina like cherries multiply like rabbits, so it's much easier to keep them in community tank settings along with omnivorous fish and not see a decline in population. The babies are being picked off, but usually not at a rate fast enough to keep up with the breeding. For every one baby being eaten, there are a handful of others that make it to safer sizes.

    Now if you were going to keep a more expensive species that doesn't breed as quickly, such as caridina, it is highly recommended to keep them in a shrimp-only tank with maybe some snails or otos for company.
    Had a friend go through about $150 worth of shrimp before he realized his angelfish were eating them.

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    Yup. It's a painful lesson to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluewaterBoof View Post
    Tell that to my order of fancy blue dream rilis that were completely wiped out by my tetras in less than 12hrs I have to laugh about it or else I will break down in tear haha

    It's all about opportunity. If the shrimplets have places to hide they tend to be left alone, but most fish will seize the opportunity for a bit of shrimp cocktail if given the chance :) Adult shrimp are usually big enough to avoid becoming a snack, but the babies are easy noms.

    The only truly shrimp-safe fish out there are otocinclus, and even with those some folks catch their otos accidentally sucking up tiny shrimplets that happen to be in the way of their foraging.

    Neocaridina like cherries multiply like rabbits, so it's much easier to keep them in community tank settings along with omnivorous fish and not see a decline in population. The babies are being picked off, but usually not at a rate fast enough to keep up with the breeding. For every one baby being eaten, there are a handful of others that make it to safer sizes.

    Now if you were going to keep a more expensive species that doesn't breed as quickly, such as caridina, it is highly recommended to keep them in a shrimp-only tank with maybe some snails or otos for company.
    I forget which tetras ate your shrimp.
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    So looking at an Eheim Jager heater after some research, that would be a 150 watt for a 55, correct?

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