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    I'm slowly setting up the first tank that I've had since being a young kid. I have a 55 gallon, was thinking of going with the Aquaclear 110. Does this make sense? Would one be ok or would it be better with two?

    For some reference this will be a heavily planted, peaceful community tank.

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    I would get 2 if you plan to fully stock the tank with fish. If you are going for heavily planted and light stocking (like 25% capacity per AqAdvisor), you can get by with 1 Ac110.

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    Welcome back to the AC.

    There's advantages to having 2 filters on a tank, I would go with 2....depending on the stocking, you could use 2 110's. or a 110 and a 70
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJedi View Post
    I'm slowly setting up the first tank that I've had since being a young kid. I have a 55 gallon, was thinking of going with the Aquaclear 110. Does this make sense? Would one be ok or would it be better with two?

    For some reference this will be a heavily planted, peaceful community tank.
    Hey MasterJedi, the Aquaclear 110 is rated for tank from 60 to 110 gallons and would be fine for your tank. But with it lid andd the lid I assume you're going to have on your tank, Strongly recommend that you have somekind of air stone or ornament that runs on an air pump. I use a canister filter that I unplug for 20 minutes twice a day while my fish are eating, but I also have an undergravel filter that I never shut off that is run by air stones. One day I accidentally unplugged the air pump while plugging back in the canister filter. After an hour or so, I noticed all my fish at the surface gasping for air. The air between the lid and water had begun losing oxygen. I plugged my air pump and left the lid open until oxygen levels in the water returned to normal. The filfer you want is fine. Just make sure there's always fresh air entering the tank at all times. If it's only going to be used for an air stone and not operating any type of filter, it can be rated for a smaller size tank. Pick yourself an extra pack of air stones as they usually only last a month or so before they begin to clog and slow down aeration.

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    Heavily planted, will you be running CO2 for the plants? I used to run 2 aquaclear 70's on my 55's, with the intake tubes drawing through UG filter lift tubes. Never had any debris accumulate under the plates that way, but UG filter plates aren't well suited to a planted tank.

    I never did keep many live plants, my preferred fish typically ate those. However, if I was going to do one, I's skip the power filter and use a couple of sponge filters powered by a Whisper AP 300 air pump. It's a dual outlet model, very quiet, and unlike the more common Whisper blue dome pumps I've used them for years w/out any problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjallen3 View Post
    Hey MasterJedi, the Aquaclear 110 is rated for tank from 60 to 110 gallons and would be fine for your tank. But with it lid andd the lid I assume you're going to have on your tank, Strongly recommend that you have somekind of air stone or ornament that runs on an air pump. I use a canister filter that I unplug for 20 minutes twice a day while my fish are eating, but I also have an undergravel filter that I never shut off that is run by air stones. One day I accidentally unplugged the air pump while plugging back in the canister filter. After an hour or so, I noticed all my fish at the surface gasping for air. The air between the lid and water had begun losing oxygen. I plugged my air pump and left the lid open until oxygen levels in the water returned to normal. The filfer you want is fine. Just make sure there's always fresh air entering the tank at all times. If it's only going to be used for an air stone and not operating any type of filter, it can be rated for a smaller size tank. Pick yourself an extra pack of air stones as they usually only last a month or so before they begin to clog and slow down aeration.
    I used my undergravel filter story just to demonstrate the need for fresh air to be between the water surface and the lid. I use plastic plants and rocks nowadays. I by no means recommend undergravel filters with live plants. The filter wouldn't work well eventually anyway as the roots will clog the filter plate openings.

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    I don't use airstones in any of my tanks, my filters provide plenty of surface agitation for gas exchange, and the cutouts for my filters allow plenty of fresh air into the tanks
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    I use sponge filters for my bare-bottom grow out/fry tanks since I have to do so many WCs and cleaning debris anyway. They are perfect for my application.

    Sometimes a better way to aerate the tank is to raise a filter spraybar or lower the water level a bit so that the output filter water breaks the water surface. Adding atmospheric air works better falling in then an airstone whose bubbles flow straight out to the surface and out the tank again. Also remember this is atmospheric air, only 20.95% oxygen. The majority is nitrogen which is useful to live plants.

    I keep my tanks heavily planted and understocked, but on my 33gs, I keep one AC70. It's plenty for my fish. They would hate more flow. It all depends on your setup and the fish you plan to keep.

    So an UG filter is not ideal for plants, you can scatch that off. Also you'll have plenty of oxygen during the day when your fish will most likely be active with all the live plants.

    As stated earlier, if you don't overstock your tank and keep it moderately stocked, keep the filter properly set up and clean, you should be fine with one AC110. That being said, an added sponge filter is never a bad idea especially if you can hide it, it can be used to start up a QT tank for new fish going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    I use sponge filters for my bare-bottom grow out/fry tanks since I have to do so many WCs and cleaning debris anyway. They are perfect for my application.

    Sometimes a better way to aerate the tank is to raise a filter spraybar or lower the water level a bit so that the output filter water breaks the water surface. Adding atmospheric air works better falling in then an airstone whose bubbles flow straight out to the surface and out the tank again. Also remember this is atmospheric air, only 20.95% oxygen. The majority is nitrogen which is useful to live plants.

    I keep my tanks heavily planted and understocked, but on my 33gs, I keep one AC70. It's plenty for my fish. They would hate more flow. It all depends on your setup and the fish you plan to keep.

    So an UG filter is not ideal for plants, you can scatch that off. Also you'll have plenty of oxygen during the day when your fish will most likely be active with all the live plants.

    As stated earlier, if you don't overstock your tank and keep it moderately stocked, keep the filter properly set up and clean, you should be fine with one AC110. That being said, an added sponge filter is never a bad idea especially if you can hide it, it can be used to start up a QT tank for new fish going forward.
    Sponge filters are fine and I'm glad to read that the one post said that the current filter in the tank and lid cutouts allow for plenty of oxygen exchange...thats all great! My canister filter gives plenty of water surface agitation for oxygen exchange too. All oxygen exchange is done at the water's surface. Not everyone has a lot of cut out areas to keep oxygenated air in the tank. An air stone can be added by suction cup barely below the water surface creating no additional water currant. It can also be mounted just above the water line. The point is to make sure there is always fresh air at the surface of the tanks water.

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    Thanks for the help guys. The tank will probably at least be moderately stocked. It's a used tank in good condition, just needed a good clean. I'm somewhat worried about finding a cover for the tank with two filers though.

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