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    If pH climbs for SA cichlids like cocatoo, angelfish and ram cichlids at a certain time of year in the wild, is it detrimental to keep them in softer water their whole life in the aquarium? My tanks are not super soft, but kh and gh are 2 sometimes 3.

    Also temperature, I keep my angels between 78-80f, do I need more of a colder period? I try to keep the temp at 80f min for the rams, if it isn't necessary, I won't bother heating it so much.
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    I wouldn't think it would be essential unless breeding wild caught fish as the seasons can come into play as to them timing when they breed, at least for some fish. Stability is always best in my experience and replication of a wild habit down to seasonal swings I can't imagine it would matter to tank raised other than potentially for breeding purposes. Kind of like cooler water water changes to simulate rains to spur some fish to breed when you want. :) I don't and have not kept anything in soft water though so I could see viability being increased with an increase in hardness.... So maybe it does matter in your conditions. :)

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    Thank you sfsamm, much appreciated.

    I'm just wondering if I'm burning them out. A recent post here raised my curiousity, but I can't find out anything about it. I guess it's not a concern. I know their metabolism is increased with higher temps, but also that their immune is decreased with a temp of 75f or lower. I've been breeding angels (and other 'softwater' fish) on and off for years and have found that 78-80f is best for angelfish. I always know if a heater fails for one reason or another before I even touch the water based on how the angels are acting.

    I've recently had 2 cichlids waste and die, it's not easy to watch this and I'm just going over everything. I treated my tanks in question with Levamisole, but I'm wondering if there's something else I'm wrong
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    PH does not directly affect how soft the water is. You can have soft alkaline water with a PH over 8.

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    Kh and gh are 2 or 3
    TDS is usually 80-120 in my tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    PH does not directly affect how soft the water is. You can have soft alkaline water with a PH over 8.
    This is true... For example Sulawesi shrimp the cardinals need a pH around 8, but low kH and gH at 5-6.

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