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    I finally received my Master's Test Kit. I have zero ammonia, nitrites were somewhere around 5 and pH 7.6

    i'm having trouble finding fish that can deal with a more alkaline water number. I've already decided on getting two pearl gourami, but can't find some smaller fish that tolerate the pH our water has. I know gourami's need to get to the surface for part of its air supply, and like cover overhead in the form of floating plants. I'd like a fish that would be good for the lower portion of the tank.

    I'd thought about getting a beta, but since my plants are plastic, I'm afraid the fins would get torn. There are plenty fresh water fish I like, but the majority need a more acidic pH. I do not want babies so guppies are out. For those that haven't seen my couple of posts, I'm working with a forty gallon acrylic tank (36 x16 x15 ), my filter is a whisper 40, my plants are all fake, one third of the length is heavily planted with a patch of grass. I also have small plants in the rest of the of the tank. The substrate is a variant of small, med and large aquarium gravel. I have a stand by pound of black gravel in case the other fish prefer a dark area.

    I don't want to crowd the tank, but I don't think one pair of gourami needs the whole tank to themselves. I'd like a small school of smaller fish, but they always seem to have a lower pH than our water. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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    Don't worry about that Ph it's fine. I have a Ph of 8.2 in my tank and keep almost everything. What fish are you wanting?
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    Agree with Luke, a ph of 7.6 will support a wide variety of fish.
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    I was considering a small school of Celestial Pearl Danio. Their top pH is given at 7.5 and I wasn't sure how closely I had to follow their range. Especially in such a small fish. They are quite a bit smaller than the Pearl Gouramis, but since both species are peaceful, I didn't think Gouramis would go after the Danios. If they can get along and the pH is ok as it sounds like it would be, they would be high on the list. I really like both the neon and cardinal tetras, but that may be pushing it with their neutral pH.

    There are more colorful fish, but I like the idea of a school. Since the Gouramis are medium sized, if I want a schooling fish, the Celestial seems like it would be a good size.

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    CPD's are tiny, and tend to be a bit timid...you may not see them much in a tank that size...I had some in a 29G, and rarely saw them, they hid alot among the plants, even though they were with other peaceful fish

    They may be more visible in a very large group, 30 or 40 of them, but they are kind of pricey.
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    harlequin rasbora, get like 20+ of them. They are also from Thailand like the gourami.

    If you want bottom feeders, skunk botia and dwarf chain loaches exists in Thailand as well. I think whistling badger mentioned that the magic number for active dwarf chain loaches was at least 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    harlequin rasbora, get like 20+ of them. They are also from Thailand like the gourami.
    This is a classic combo that really is beautiful. It's simple and both species are hardy when healthy.

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    Let the tank mature a bit and add some sponges or guards on the filter intakes for some Neocaridina shrimp (red cherry).

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    They seem to be nice looking fish. I like the idea of a large school. There is something about the way a school move as one unit. Aquarium stores have them in an acidic pH. They don't live with the fish, so if alkaline water will be ok for them, I tend to trust this forum.

    You read my mind on the shrimp. If you hadn't brought it up, I would have. That combination would give each species a layer of the tank. Gouramis at the top, Rosbora the center and a bottom feeder.

    Will a forty gallon support two Gourami, ten or fifteen Rosboras and a bottom feeder? There isn't enough of an opening for two Whisper forty filters. There is about 3/4 of a forty's size. I can put a second smaller filter next to the forty.

    I appreciate all of your help. Maybe In time I can give some advice back instead of just getting it.
    Does anyone know where I can order a large number of the rosboras? I've been looking at aqualive that gives profiles on their fish, but I get the impression they don't keep large numbers of each specie. when you order a fish, you literally get the one in the picture they post.

    we have an aquarium in town, but I'm disabled and getting around is hard. Do any of you either use or know a store that will deliver fish overnight?

    Thanks again,
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    A 40G will easily support the stocking you have in mind, but I would still try to find a way to add more filtration.

    Does the tank have a canopy, or a glass lid?...you could always add a canister filter, if space is an issue

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