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    My son is super pumped to get this project off the ground. I figure that opening a journal is going to be the easiest place to keep it all together. Thanks in advance for your help.

    So far we are off to a booming start: we have the tank and glass top. Oh, and 2 cherry barbs (1M and 1F) that survived ich and velvet AND 30 days in CopperSafe.

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    Lighting... I would like to be able to dabble in live plants without an algae explosion - is this even possible? I have been looking at the Finnex Fugeray LED + Moonlights or Current Satellite Plus LED. The more I read the more confused I get.

    Stand... anybody recommend a prefab stand? Keep in mind stability is hugely important as this tank goes in my 4 year old's room. I am also looking at using a stout coffee table or console table (he wants the one his tank is on in my living room, LOL).

    ETA: Substrate: I am going to take the leap and go with sand. Suggestions?

    I still need to leak test the tank. Once that is done I will spray paint the tank with a matte black backround.

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    I really like the Current LED....you can make the tank pink, green, purple, along with a ton of other (more subtle) colors..my daughter loves that..I have very few minor issues with algae that I don't fret over.

    Pre-fab stands are fine, they're designed for the weight...just make sure it is level, as is the tank, BEFORE adding water.
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    His room is carpeted and I will have to level the stand. I got worried last night when I read reviews that said, "stable, but would be easy to pull over."

    Nothing says stable more than the phrase, "easy to pull over."

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    I have both the Fugeray LED + and the Current Satellite (mine is not the + for planted tanks). I am very happy with both so I suppose it's just about the options. The Fugeray only has 3 settings: White/daytime, Blue/moonlight and off. The Current Satellite has too many settings to list. It even gives you the ability to create your own colors.. and it has a remote control. Both tanks I have are planted and doing well.
    I bought both of my prefab stands from Petsmart. Again, I am happy with both but they can be a PITA to build (lots of parts and terrible instructions). I would urge you to look for one that has a base directly on the floor (no legs).
    If you are going to go with sand, many use Pool Filter Sand as it is cheap and readily available at most hardware stores. Really, it depends on what color, size, etc you want. I'm sure more will chime in to give you some ideas. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labagility View Post
    His room is carpeted and I will have to level the stand. I got worried last night when I read reviews that said, "stable, but would be easy to pull over."

    Nothing says stable more than the phrase, "easy to pull over."
    You may want to look into getting a wall anchor for whichever stand you decide on. This will give you a bit more comfort that it stays upright.
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    Thanks for the guidance on the solid bottom. That makes a lot of sense.

    I had already thought about wall anchoring - I was just worried about finding a spot to attach the anchor to that would not compromise structural integrity.

    If I wasn't hell bent on keeping the tank on the far wall so I can check it when I walk by, I would use my old oak entertainment center as a shelving unit. The tank would be perfect where the TV goes and he could use the rest of the shelves for storage. Unfortunately that would but his tank out of sight unless you walked into his room. I am not ultra comfortable with that right now....

    This is his tank... but it is pretty much my project.

    ETA: He loves his current tank and knows that his room is for more zen-like pursuits such as reading, quiet play, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labagility View Post
    His room is carpeted and I will have to level the stand. I got worried last night when I read reviews that said, "stable, but would be easy to pull over."

    Nothing says stable more than the phrase, "easy to pull over."
    Umm... Do they know what stable means? If it's properly stable, it shouldn't be that easy to pull over, especially with the weight of a tank on it, however...

    Quote Originally Posted by darkmerlin21 View Post
    You may want to look into getting a wall anchor for whichever stand you decide on. This will give you a bit more comfort that it stays upright.
    Definitely this, especially in a house with kids (and/or other animals). It's always better to err on the side of caution, because hindsight is 20/20...

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    And I'm not so sure a solid bottom is the best bet with carpet

    Seems to me that 4 points (corners of a stand) would "dig in" and stabilize quicker than a rectanguler bottom of a stand, which would have much more surface area on carpet to compensate for

    So glad I have no carpet...wood floors are so much easier to level a stand and tank upon...
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    I would also vouch for the satellite + from current. I have 2 and I love them, and super adjustable colorwise.

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    I use these stands from Petco for all of my tanks and find them extremely sturdy and easy to put together. They have a solid top and solid bottom - no legs that need leveling. I do not think you would have to worry about a 20 long toppling off this stand, since it's not a high tank. Actually, I think a solid bottom would be better on carpet than 4 individual legs. I have hard wood floors downstairs but added an inexpensive area carpet under each tank. My son's tank is in his bedroom on very thick plush carpet with no issues.

    My store does not carry them so I order on-line.

    http://www.petco.com/product/101393/...20Stand-101393
    Last edited by SueD; 04-14-2015 at 05:36 AM.

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