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    Default Too much carbs in fish food leads to death


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    https://www.feednavigator.com/Articl...-to-fish-death


    fatty liver disease caused by too much wheat, soy, or corn by products.

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    How very sad for that family's farm. Sickening for all those fish -- it sounds like a slow, horrid way to go.
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    If what they claim is true, there was definitely negligence and irresponsibility. That new manufacturer should have known what could happen when they changed the formula, or at the very least, should have had their researchers look into it before changing it. AND, they should have notified the fish farm of the changes. Customers have a right to know these things. What about the labeling laws? How did they think they could get around those? Sounds a little sneaky, to me -- and they deserve to pay for it -- IF what is alleged in the complaint is true. It will require good evidence, but if the farm has it, those people are toast.
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    I used to feed my dogs food from the vet. It cost me twice as much to feed them this than a high quality food at the LPS. I kept feeding my dogs this food because the vet insisted it was best for them. One year, they changed the formula completely. The new formula was imported from Mexico, instead of made in Canada. I wish I still had the old bag info, but the new major ingredients where corn, wheat, and other crap. When I asked "I thought dogs didn't digest corn very well?" She told me corn is a protein replacement of it is processed correctly. The price went up, quantity went down, quality went way down. It wasn't even a slight alteration, it was a complete change. The vet failed to alarm me of this change, and the next time I went to buy the dog's food, I had none of their existing formula left to let their bodies adjust gradually to the new ingredients. I never bought the new formula, and switched to Fromm at the LPS. There's a ton of foods, even for us, being altered without our knowledge, unfortunately.
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    That's why it's so important to read labels -- and HOPE they're complete and truthful. There are supposed to be labeling laws, but companies manage to get around them. Yes, even in our foods, there are so many preservatives, additives and fillers that our bodies were never designed to digest. It's no wonder people get so sick these days and can't figure out why. Doctors often won't tell you anything, and so many of them just blow off your symptoms or try to say it's all in your head -- very insulting to someone who is conscientious and paying attention to what their bodies are telling them. This "all in your head" business is a cop-out that doctors use because they're too lazy to find out what's wrong.

    Veterinarians charging high prices for specialized pet food have a moral obligation -- maybe even a legal one -- to inform their clients when formulas change. Clients have a right to know, especially when their money is being taken.

    If that were my vet, I wouldn't go back for anything. I'd find a different vet, even if it meant driving farther for my pet's good health. If they can't or won't be up front with their clients, they don't deserve their business.

    It's hard to believe some of the unethical practices that are done these days, but it happens often and we need to be alert and informed.
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    Kat, I'm so sorry to hear your vet's supplier tried to pull that switch! It is a good thing you were alert and observant so you did not put your dogs through the abrupt change.
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    Ty Rivers. This was years ago, I have my dog Chelsea still, 12 years old and acts like a puppy, she's been on Fromm food now since she was 6.

    @mermaidwannabe When the switch happened, I was pretty upset, but I stayed with the vet because this was my second vet I went through, and well, nobody's perfect. There's a lady I went to school with at the reception, and I feel through other more stressful moments with the dogs, they've helped me out as much as possible. But thank you for your concern! It just shows how important it is for is to be conscientious about everything we buy to eat, even if we buy it regularly.

    I remember when CoffeeMate used coconut oil as an ingredient. Now it's cottonseed oil and tastes like crap!
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    Coconut oil is supposed to be quite healthy to consume. When melted into a liquid, it tastes just like butter, and is a great substitute for butter on popcorn. I can't have dairy, so instead of buttering (or worse yet, using margarine) on my popcorn, I just melt coconut oil in the microwave, and I honestly can't tell the difference, flavor-wise.

    Coconut oil is supposed to have heart benefits, as well.

    You're right that nobody is perfect. Not even God expects us to be perfect. But I think a little more serious consideration of long-term consequences for consumers should enter into corporate decisions to switch out quality ingredients for less desirable ingredients. Why tamper with a good thing? Maybe it's cheaper, maybe it's politics, maybe it's just poor decision making, but it often results in an inferior product when they once had a much better one. Doesn't make sense.
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    Scientific article on the usage of carbohydrates in fish:

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