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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    Wow, that's a lot of reading, gotta give it a break! I want to use peat and IALs to make tea. I use IALs in my tanks and I see tannins, but with all the large water changes I do, I'm worried I'm changing params too quickly if I add more than just a few. I also want to get into using other sources of HS, like alder cones and banana stems.

    I have a ton of maple trees and the fall season is approaching, I read maple and oak leaves will provide humic substance, but not the antibacterial properties IALs do. Does anyone know how beneficial maple leaves are compared to oak leaves? Should I even bother collecting leaves from my big Crimson King maple? Those leaves would look fabulous in an aquarium!

    If they are completely safe to use after they fall off the tree, I might as well, I'm just curious. I see ppl using oak leaves all the time, not so much maple leaves.....
    I'm about to collect leaves myself. Red maples and white oak fall in my yard. Also have aspen/popple/poplar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheFly View Post
    I'm about to collect leaves myself. Red maples and white oak fall in my yard. Also have aspen/popple/poplar.
    I will say I've been worried about sugars in the maple leaves. Maybe these are all re-absorbed by the tree in the fall or dry period, but I'm not sure....
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    I will say I've been worried about sugars in the maple leaves. Maybe these are all re-absorbed by the tree in the fall or dry period, but I'm not sure....
    Gone months ago. I know there are folks that use them. Even if they weren't I highly doubt a pinch of sugar in a tank is a toxin. A dried leaf with sugar still in it would be a waste of resources for nature.
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    Does anyone have any thoughts on performing large WCs on a blackwater style tank with lots of humic substances? I feel I'd have to add a tea to compensate for removed tannins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    Does anyone have any thoughts on performing large WCs on a blackwater style tank with lots of humic substances? I feel I'd have to add a tea to compensate for removed tannins.
    As long as the new water TDS and tank water TDS is within 50ppm, no worries about a large water change.

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    Ok TY! I must admit it's hard to keep a tank tannin'ed-up doing large WCs. I wonder if there's any medicinal point just adding AILs in my tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    I wonder if there's any medicinal point just adding AILs in my tanks.
    From the link I posted above:

    "Adding dead leaves will have the resulting effect of releasing humic substances, and this will lower the pH of the aquarium water, act as an anti-bacterial and anti-fungal agent, and also lower the heavy metal content of the water. It is widely accepted that it acts as a spawning trigger and can aid in the recovery of any fish damaged through stress or fighting. From my own observations and with the backing of some scientific research by the likes of Dr. Christian Steinberg, it has been proven that there are many positive reasons why using humic substance releasers, such as dead leaves, are good for the aquarium fish we keep."
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    Ok TY! I must admit it's hard to keep a tank tannin'ed-up doing large WCs. I wonder if there's any medicinal point just adding AILs in my tanks.
    Short of using a liquid additive it would be a tall task to not alter the tannins with a large WC. Whether it really matters I haven't a clue. For a quick fix I toss a fresh Jiffy peat pot in my HOB and it looks like weak tea pretty quick. If you don't use an HOB throw it in a media bag and put in the tank and it still works but much slower. Or skip the media bad if you don;t mind fine peat escaping eventually. Don't know if this is the perfect solution but it costs 15 cents and it can't hurt anything IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheFly View Post
    Short of using a liquid additive it would be a tall task to not alter the tannins with a large WC. Whether it really matters I haven't a clue. For a quick fix I toss a fresh Jiffy peat pot in my HOB and it looks like weak tea pretty quick. If you don't use an HOB throw it in a media bag and put in the tank and it still works but much slower. Or skip the media bad if you don;t mind fine peat escaping eventually. Don't know if this is the perfect solution but it costs 15 cents and it can't hurt anything IMO.
    Yeah, I'm gonna look into using peat as well. As of now, I'm only using IALs, but would like to add other botonicals.
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