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    By melting, I mean they became very thin and transparent. Now they look like someone took a mini-gun to them and blew a thousand holes through the leaves. I have a very low tech setup (i.e. small gravel and a Beamswork 48" LED 6500k light that is on 8hrs/day). I've read some things on the net that suggest it could be an iron deficiency but I'm not sure. I'm still fairly new to live plants.

    I also have Crypts and Vals in the tank that are doing OK. Both of those plants have seem to hit a wall if you will with their growth though, but neither are showing signs of dying.

    Is there anything I can do (fertilizer or substrate wise) to boost the growth/chances for the plants in my tank? I'm willing to buy ferts but I just don't have the time and money to invest in more lighting or CO2 at this time, nor do I really want to, lol. By substrate, I meant could I add Seachem or Flora Max to what I have now?

    ***Note *** I have trimmed all of the dying leaves from the plants, leaving only 1 leaf on a plant and 2 on the other.
    Last edited by Law Dog; 09-09-2017 at 06:47 PM.
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    how long have you had the swords? It could be an adjustment period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    how long have you had the swords? It could be an adjustment period
    I've had the swords for at least 2 months and the Vals/Crypts since about early May (so 4 months for them).
    * 100gal show
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    You shouldnt have to upgrade your lights or add CO2 for the swors. I used a single 48" aqua glo flourescent bulb, no CO2 and fertilization in a 24" deep tank for about 4 amazon swords with no issues growing. I did have melt off initially to about a few stalks, and all I had were swords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    You shouldnt have to upgrade your lights or add CO2 for the swors. I used a single 48" aqua glo flourescent bulb, no CO2 and fertilization in a 24" deep tank for about 4 amazon swords with no issues growing. I did have melt off initially to about a few stalks, and all I had were swords.
    Thanks..... I think I'll just keep doing what I have been, and maybe buy a bottle of liquid fert to add after my W/C's. I've read about pro's and con's to adding flourite to regular gravel. I'll take it 1 step at a time though.
    * 100gal show
    - planted w/ Crypts, Vals, Java Fern, Staurogyne repens and Amazon Swords
    - Neons, 4 Angelfish, Sunset Honey Gourami, BN Pleco, Spotted Sailfin
    Pleco, Odessa Barbs, Corydoras schwartzi, Serpae Tetras, Silver tip tetras
    * Fluval Spec V
    - Dwarf Gourami, , 1 Kuhli loach, 2 Black Phantom Tetras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Law Dog View Post
    Thanks..... I think I'll just keep doing what I have been, and maybe buy a bottle of liquid fert to add after my W/C's. I've read about pro's and con's to adding flourite to regular gravel. I'll take it 1 step at a time though.
    Sounds like a plan. Just remember that not all plants work well with all water chemistry. Keep it simple and focus on the ones that you can successfully keep without letting BBA or massive algae blooms make taking care of your tank more work tha necessary.

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    Also keep an eye on your pleco, if he's still in there. I had a large amazon sword with a bushy nose pleco. He used to like to rasp on the leaves so that became as you described - thin and transparent. I trimmed them off regularly.

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    Sword plants melting to a thin white is often times an Iron Deficiency and tons of small holes are a a sign of potassium deficiency. Hope that helps
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    I'm going to pick up a bottle of SeaChem Flourish today to see if that helps. Thanks for the replies and suggestions!
    * 100gal show
    - planted w/ Crypts, Vals, Java Fern, Staurogyne repens and Amazon Swords
    - Neons, 4 Angelfish, Sunset Honey Gourami, BN Pleco, Spotted Sailfin
    Pleco, Odessa Barbs, Corydoras schwartzi, Serpae Tetras, Silver tip tetras
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    I use root tabs for my swords and it seems to do the trick. I haven't tried using just flourish.. I do have some. You'll have to let us know how your swords respond.
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